Are You a Victim of Veterinary Abuse?
The Crushing Effect of “Health Care” Gone Wrong
I’d hope my profession is serving you. All too often, I’m disappointed rather than hopeful. This true story added to that disappointment in spades.
You’d love to think that everything Dr. WhiteCoat recommends for you was in your animal’s best interests, right? I mean, isn’t that why she became a vet? To help the animals who come to her?
The Veterinarian’s Oath sounds a bit like corporate speak, but does contain some gems (emphasis mine):
Being admitted to the profession of veterinary medicine, I solemnly swear to use my scientific knowledge and skills for the benefit of society through the protection of animal health and welfare, the prevention and relief of animal suffering, the conservation of animal resources, the promotion of public health, and the advancement of medical knowledge.
I will practice my profession conscientiously, with dignity, and in keeping with the principles of veterinary medical ethics.
I accept as a lifelong obligation the continual improvement of my professional knowledge and competence.”
Then, Comes This (in the “I Wish I Was Making This Up” Dept)
Mrs Z. wrote me this week, in response to my email inviting her to tell me what most troubles her with her animals.
I really don’t like bringing our dog to the Veterinarian. Whenever he gets vaccinated, he has a hard time getting up mornings for several months , will growl at us if we touch him to get him up, barks all the time at every truck or motorcycle he feels rumbling the ground before it reaches us and goes by the house, and scratches & licks spots on his legs and paws until they are raw.
He goes outside and just stares off into space. If we don’t bring him every single yr for shots, she makes us bring him once and then again in 2–3 wks. She says he has to build up an immunity seeing we didn’t bring him in on time.”
Okay, let’s pause the narrative for a moment. Did you catch the client abuse here?
“You didn’t do as I say, and now it’s going to cost you!”
And, in the name of “building immunity,” she gives this already multiply vaccinated dog two more rounds of multi-dose vaccines!
And, her default vaccination schedule?
“Every single year.”
Hello? Anybody home, there? Has she truly missed the piece that main stream veterinary immunologists have been telling us for decades now?
- Immunity to viruses lasts a very long time. Probably life long.
- Vaccinating someone who’s already got established immunity “fails” (their exact word) to make more immunity. No booster effect. No benefit.
- And, we know repeatedly vaccinating anyone is risky to their health.
Was this vet acting “conscientiously?” With dignity? Ethically?
How about the part about continually improving her “professional knowledge and competency?”
Those immunologists published that information in 1992. In Current Veterinary Therapy, a well respected reference text book that all vets know about.
If you’re a vet in conventional practice, you’d would have had to completely ignore television, all print media, and the internet and have your head deeply stuck in the sand to miss the ongoing concerns about vaccinations in both animals and humans.
You’d have had to completely ignore the AVMA and AAHA recommendations, also out for decades, against annual vaccinations.
It’s All About the Bottom Line
Back to the embarrassing narrative. Hang on to your halter.
She’s all big Pharma and there is no getting through to her. Plus she is so expensive! She wants me to give him a pill and 1/2 of dewormer when he tests negative for worms @ 105.- per 1.5 pills which in the past he always throws up, therefore I refuse now.”
Wait. Hold the phone.
He tests negative for worms, but she sells Mrs. Z grossly overpriced dewormer pills? Which make this dog vomit?
Anyone else see an ethical problem here?
At least this owner put her foot down here and refused that part.
I feel so anxious and upset whenever we bring our dog to her. She has her assistants try selling us all kinds of tests/lab work, immunizations, pills, and so on before she even enters the room. I feel as though she is far more interested in making money than the health of the animals.
She put our dog on Apoquel a year & 1/2 ago… until I read the side effects and it was costing us a fortune to keep having his liver function and all tested by her.”
One Drug With a Side of Labs, Please
Apoquel? The expensive “miracle drug with a dark side” I wrote about late in 2015? Besides the vaccines that made him allergic, this drug is also making him sick, and comes with a side of lab testing.
Expensive lab testing.
“We need to check his organ function!”
Unspoken: “…because this stuff is toxic and we need to know how much damage we’re causing.”
Prevention and relief of animal suffering hiding somewhere in here?
I had to pick my jaw up off the desk when I first read Mrs. Z’s letter. It goes on…
The heartworm preventative gives him diarreah. She is literally making our beautiful Dalmatian/Labrador mix ill. And I know that most vets (that) are doing this, not just her. What I want to know is, WHY? It seems so evil. Looking forward to learning natural alternatives. “
The Solution to Evil is Simple (Relatively)
First, Mrs. Z. has really already answered her question of “Why?” right? Greed is the driver. Mixed with a disordered personality that really shouldn’t be in a helping profession.
- Fire Your Vet! For obvious reasons, this person shouldn’t receive a dime from you, ever again.
- Tell all your friends and neighbors. No one should be spending money on this practice.
- File a complaint with your state veterinary board. If they’re not reprimanding annual vaccinators, they should start. Price gouging is likely somewhere in their practice act, as well. If not, take it to the Better Business Bureau.
- Get smart. You’ll want to learn:
- about vaccinations
- about their all too common side effects
- …that often lead to dangerous drug use, like Apoquel
- about nutrition
- and, about non-toxic pest control and heartworm prevention
- Take control in the veterinary marketplace. Make good prevention choices and find a vet you can trust to do the work you want done.
- Spend money supporting those who are truly helping you and your animals thrive.
- Raise amazing Vital Animals!
Let us know in the comments if you’ve ever felt abused in a vet visit. And better yet, what you did about it. I really hope Mrs. Z’s was a rare exception, but I’ll suck it up and pay more attention if I’m just being too innocent here.
Hi, I was wondering if I could Will a question-the one thing that makes me furious when you go to vet is how the receptionist makes you sign a paper stating you give permission to the vet to do whatever they deem necessary. Including all vaccinations, drugs, ect. The last one told me “he won’t see her if you don’t sign”. So what are we suppose to do? There are some things I don’t want done to my pets, but they tie our hands and render us helpless to their (evil) will. Also, is this even LEGAL for them to do this? I’m also sick and tired of how they demand payment at the end of every appointment especially when we don’t know how much the bill is going to be? THIS has got to stop and we the public need to get laws against them doing this, especially when most people don’t have insurance. Even when we humans go to the ER they will bill you and give you 60 days. I wonder if being forced to pay the entire bill at a vet’s is legal as well. A “policy” is not a law. Any feedback will be appreciated, thank you.
I’ll give you a very short answer, Amber: FIRE THAT VET! If you feel “forced” into doing things you don’t agree with, why pay that clinic any of your hard-earned money? That clinic is assuming you know nothing, are not inquiring and studying for your animal’s best outcomes and long life, and their policy is My Way of The Highway!
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It blows me away that evil people like this would become veterinarians. You would think it would be kind hearted people who do it because they love animals. But I guess every profession is bound to have its bad apples.
Usually you find a few bad apples when picking through them. When it comes to veterinarians, you have to pick through mostly rotten apples to find 1 good one. The profession has been shitty for a long time. Finally people are starting to “WAKE UP” and educate themselves before listening to their vets advice. VETS DO NOT MAKE MONEY ON HEALTHY ANIMALS. The longer your pet is sick the more money they make. They make our pets sick with all of these vaccines, preventatives and medications and then bankrupt you while pretending to try to make your pet better, when they are the ones who made your pet sick in the first place. It’s a circle of deception…ALL…FOR…MONEY. – Never blindly trust your vet! facebook.com/ regretavetveterinarynegligence
I have scheduled a surgery for my cat to have some kind of lump above her mouth removed, but now I have decided to cancel it. After finding photos and video of my cat showing this lump or cyst over a year ago with no further growth, this veterinarian missed it in May 2019 during an exam and vaccinations. This veterinarian was in a hurry and only spent about two minutes with me while the technicians did all the work. However I do not know what is going on under the skin. I also believe when we pay a lot of money for these procedures and surgeries, we should be given the results printed out. These veterinarians seem to be afraid we might take them to another vet. Don’t we have that right? I paid for those results and should get them. I’m not relying on some veterinarian with possible money motives. Her bottomline isn’t mine.
She is requesting surgery at an estimated cost of $2,000 which includes an x-ray plus follow up appointments. Why did she not do the x-ray first when the cat was being examined? What about a biopsy? A biopsy isn’t even listed in the estimate. This is unethical and I believe, and have in the past, this veterinarian is gouging maybe due to lack of patients. She used to be good. Now she’s too greedy. I am cancelling the appointment tomorrow and firing her. This estimate is heavily padded and my cat is over 14 years old. She shows no sensitivity by touching this lump and shows no signs of discomfort even though I know cats can hide pain. I knew my cats better than this vet ever did.
Over a year ago, I brought my now deceased 15-year-old Siamese in for an annual exam and vaccines. I mentioned to this vet I suspect he has arthritis because I have noticed him showing some difficulty walking and jumping. Twice I mentioned this in 2018 and both times she ignored me. Come the end of April 2019, this vet diagnosed him with a serious case of arthritis. She’s the vet and didn’t see it the year before. I knew that already because he could barely walk and kept falling down. I had to carry him most places. She missed another opportunity. I took him in to see about pain medications and his exam. The vet said she could give him pain medications, but “it will only be for you.” After a week he would have to be euthanized.
Only for me? I told her I was not going to make this cat suffer a week only for me. What kind of doctor is this? I had been going to her for over 15 years. Has the dollar sign suddenly become more important to her? She was never like this before, but it might explain why her waiting room is always empty.
I thought I was bringing my cat back home with pain medications. Instead he was euthanized. I still haven’t gotten over it nor has the only surviving cat who is supposed to go to this monster for an intrusive surgery that could probably kill her. Not happening. I decided the veterinarian doesn’t know best. I do. I know my cat better. Besides, she was just put on medications for her thyroid because the vet says she is losing weight. She looks to be gaining not losing. Why should I trust this greedy veterinarian?
How can I give her the thyroid medication twice a day after a surgical procedure around the mouth? Then I was told my cat would have to wear a cone collar for 3-4 weeks. Let’s torture the cat more so this vet can make more money. She must have a vacation coming up. I have often scolded this veterinarian before because I have questioned her ethics.
My playful tabby had been examined for large tumors on his body especially a very large one causing him difficulty to walk. The vet suggested amputation of the back leg by a specialist ($$$$). This cat was over 15 years old. Why would I force him to have to re-learn to walk again on three legs. I took him home. Two weeks after my Siamese died, this tabby cat followed because he had to be euthanized. He was already near death when I found him in the bathroom then revived him. It was obvious to me his organs were shutting down, he stopped breathing and was cold. I was afraid he would suffer and the process could drag out so I took him in immediately.
Two cats within two weeks. Now the only surviving cat seems to have a death sentence awaiting with what seems to be an unnecessary surgery pending. No x-rays, no biposy. Just a vet’s eyes and finger touching. She missed it in March 2019 and photos/video prove it was the same color and size then as it is now. Why excessive padding a bill when an x-ray or biopsy could be done first to eliminate surgery? No wonder veterinarians are so expensive. We’re keeping them in business with unnecessary procedures that only benefit them.
Just looking at a 14+ year old cat with a non-growing tumor for over a year equates to surgery being more risk than benefit. Most conventional medical folks see things as a “to do list” and don’t take the big picture into account.
If you’d like a completely different view of benign tumors and their place in an animal doing his best to stay in healthy balance, see this post.
Congratulate me. I finally got a holistic vet (recommended via this site) to see my dog yesterday, because the old drugsdrugsdrugs vet could not understand the concept of my dog’s “sensitive to medications” issues.
My experience was like this…
The first available New Client appointment with the holistic vet was 6 weeks out.
First hour long appointment was $250. And after that they charge by 15 minute increments at $60 each.
While I was glad that many of the holistic vet’s view were same as what I read here, it was disheartening to hear that 1) she would have prescribed the same dewormer, Drontal, as the old vet when we found tapeworms in my pup’s stool, a drug my dog did not react well to. 2) Aside from flea prevention, we did not get any “alternatives” to dealing with current fleas, and in fact the “holistic” vet encouraged me to continue with the Sentinel and other topical pesticides for the time being (!!!). 3) Like another highly regarded holistic vet I went to, I had to wait 20+ minutes AFTER the appointed time, no doctor in sight. I was so fed up I was literally in the hallway, with my bag and dog with every intention to leave when the vet ran down to meet me, apologies and excuses.
What’s my point? I totally believe that too many vets are lazily hiding behind “evidence-based” BS and drugs, and that we need to support effective alternatives to drugs treatments for dogs and pets. HOWEVER… if the holistic vet community wants the make a larger impact, you all NEED to make it more accessible to people. Treat people with more respect. Be On Time for your appointments. Provide treatments at a somewhat reasonable and affordable rate!
There’s almost no limit to how much I will spend on my dog to keep her healthy, but most of the population of pet owners cannot afford $250 an hour, or $60 for 15 minute consultations.
$250 an hour? That’s more than my car payment and insurance combined.
$60 for 15 minutes? That’s almost as much as I pay to feed my dog for a month. Do I really need to choose between feeding my dog for a month, or talking to the vet for 15 minutes?
You’ve got the first step down: information, spread the word, sow doubt in the mind of people unhappy with the drug-centric treatments their dogs and cats are getting.
But if the holistic veterinary community can’t take the next step to provide better access to “holistic” care for pets, as is touted on this site, then it’s all just philosophy and idealism.
And that leaves well meaning, compassionate pet owners doubtful, mistrusting and nowhere to turn. They’re “bad” if they keep going to conventional vets, but unable to afford or unwilling to put up with less than desirable experiences with ‘holistic’ vets.
I wish we had an affordable holistic vet this side of the U.K. ???? One of the vets at the practice I go to told me that although the puppies fecal test came back 100% pathogen free, that I should still worm as the worms could be in their muscles, they were 3 weeks old!!! Needless to say I don’t go to him! He is also happy to vaccinate a dog that is having repeat anal gland issues and severe itching ????
Oh, my, Suzanne. Run for cover.
p.s. my UK geography is lame, but Sue Armstrong is in Leeds, and may well offer phone consulting. Excellent homeopath!
I am new to this site and am probably asking on the wrong link. I am looking for advice. I have a GSH, 8 yo that is suspect to have Osteosarcoma . My vet sent the x-rays off to a specialist and we should have his opinion tomorrow. Well can’t wait. I have been reading these blogs and am very impressed with everyone’s knowledge, so thought I would ask a few questions. #1 is it too late? ( Not a for sure diagnosis and no stage set)
#2 has anyone heard of artemisinin?
#3 any ideas on dosages or/ and a reputable source.
#4 any other herbs/remedies that may help???
Thank you so much, and if I am asking in the wrong forum, please send info on the correct one.
Again thank you so much.
Thank you, thank you, thank for all of your insite, knowledge and wisdom!!! I forward your blog to everyone that I know. Your knowledge is so forward thinking and something that is so absent here in the states.
Oh, thanks so much Paris Gal. I really appreciate you spreading the word!
I have been absorbing every article you produce on your site Dr. Falconer, and its so refreshing to get not only a wealth of information on how to keep my dog vital, but also the opinions, stories and antidotes from other readers.
We have a 5-month old German Shepherd, and we have declined all vaccinations. We are just learning about raw feeding, but so far we are comfortable with 25% raw, as well as regular raw recreational bones for oral health.
We believe that with the right diet, homeopathic support, plenty of fresh air and sunshine, lots of exercise, and of course lots of love, our dog will remain vital, and his immune system will function on a very high level, protecting him from parasites – the way nature intended.
Wishing wellness and joy for you, your readers, and all our furry friends!!!
-Sarah F., Ontario, Canada
Sometimes it is not just the vets who bully pet owners. I hired a cat sitter, and on the initial meet-and-greet one of the sitters started giving me a hard time because my cat was on a raw diet. “I’ve been a vet tech for 15 years….” she tried to say before I cut her off and ended that conversation. After the meeting I called the owner, and fired them.
My cat is 16 years old, has not had any vaccinations since she 2001. Funny how the sitter had no problem with that, but just couldn’t handle my cat eating natural, unprocessed foods.
I appreciate you Dr. Falconer!! So few like you!! I am tired of the vet profession killing our companion pets for fee. I stand up and I tell them what they WILL and WILL NOT do to my baby. If they don’t like it I will find another vet. God Knows there are plenty out there. Perhaps Not Good ones but plenty!
I learned from gathering pieces here and there about the what I think is best for my baby. They always want to use the old bull WELL, you can’t board without this and that. WELL, I don’t board anyway so stuff it.
Thank you for being there and speaking up and out for those that can’t. I wish you had a clone in SC!!!!!!
Aww, Louise, you’re very kind. I don’t know of any clones, but I have recently met a lovely holistic vet in your state, Ruth Roberts, DVM. I’ll bet she’d be fine with your Wills and Will Nots list.
I love the way you’ve taken charge of these decisions in health care! That’s my goal for owners across the globe. Learn, apply to your loved one, rinse and repeat.
My 11 year old cat was borderline diabetic, vets bills were mounting up, when a lovely lady suggested I tried Bachs Rescue Remedy. 5 drops on his water every morning. After a few days the cat would wait until I dosed his water before drinking! He lived for another 7 years, with no more treatment for the diabetes.
You are right, cats love homeopathy.
Wow, Margaret, that’s unexpected. Are you sure you didn’t have something else to thank, like a change to a balanced raw diet? That by the way, can get a good number of diabetic cats cured.
Where did we get the idea that our little carnivores would do great things on cereal again? Oh, yes. It was the multi-billion dollar pet food industry.
Yep, my experience is also that cats will drink from a bowel of water with the right remedy in it, when they need it. Even when there is other water available. Of course they know what they want. It’s us who are so arrogantly ignorant. They are highly evolved beings.
Several years ago, our dog Mickey became seriously ill (continual vomiting & unable to keep food or fluids down) & we took him to an emergency hospital. Eventually it was determined that he had ingested an acorn while we were hiking in the mountains. It was surgically removed but then 3 weeks later his gall bladder had become infected and back in for surgery he went. It took a serious toll on him & if he hadn’t been eating a home-prepared diet and un-vaccinated, he likely wouldn’t have survived. Although we had paid our bill in full at the conclusion of the initial surgery, we were told they wouldn’t even look at him unless we pre-paid the bill for the second surgery. Our other dog Maverick tore his cruciate ligament later that year, which we had surgically repaired. Those 2 incidents alone cost us $20,000 that year, which we compliantly paid without complaint.
A few years later, at the age of 13, Mickey became seriously ill once again and back we went to an emergency hospital. 48 hours, several misdiagnoses (first an ulcer, then a collapsed disc in his back) and several invasive tests later (including multiple spinal taps for which they repeatedly put him under), he was finally diagnosed with immune-mediated meningitis. For this they wanted to treat him with high and repeated doses of steroids which may have given him 18 more months of misery. When we were finally “invited” back to the clinic to see him, he was in an incubator lying in a pool of his own saliva as he was no longer able to swallow. During the entire time they had him, we were not permitted to feed him as we fed raw. And, yup, we authorized all of this for which I still weep and hate myself every, single day.
18 months later Maverick was sent for an ultrasound and it was determined that he had an enlarged heart and “something wrong with his liver.” For this the recommendation was to perform exploratory surgery (he was almost 14). Thankfully we had learned from our repeated mistakes with Mickey, declined their ridiculous recommendations & took him home.
Now we have a dog with a lipoma on his neck. Following a ct scan to make this diagnosis, the recommendation was to amputate his leg, followed by some fancy new method of radiation for which they would keep him for 5 days. During this time we would not have been permitted to visit him nor feed him. As we did not wish to have him carved up like a turkey to serve as their science experiment, we declined.
Now, in the province that we live, the VMA is bullying, harassing, & threatening alternative therapists (osteopaths, homeopaths, chiropractors, etc), causing many of them to close their doors and us to lose these options for our dogs.
For us, they cannot do anything more to demonstrate what unprofessional, disgraceful, financially driven bullies they truly are. We have completely lost all faith in the entire veterinary industry – with the exception of the holistic vet we were finally able to find. It was a long journey for us, with a lot of very costly mistakes along the way, but we are now true advocates for our dogs and do not put up with any of the pure abuse that conventional vets feel they are entitled to dole out to their clients.
And people like you, Dr. Falconer, have been very influential in empowering us to take control of the well-being and treatment of our dogs. Thank you – we are very grateful.
Your journey is an inspiration, Karen. No need to feel bad about the past. It has informed your future and will likely impact every animal person you come in contact with.
Thanks for sharing this with us. And keep up your great advocacy and natural rearing.
I am following your site after reading about Apoquel, which my wee fox terrier was taking until I read your post. She’s still scratching away, sadly. I have just read the article about feeding, and am presuming that your recommendations are all US brands. I checked out the price of Sojos in the UK and it costs £86, which is ridiculous. Do you have any knowledge of UK and EU brands that would be suitable with reference to your article above, I particularly like the sound of Sojos.
I don’t know the brands there, no, but I’m going to bet many are available to you, with a wee bit of Googling around 😉
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ATTENTION “texvet” Quoting you: “I’m sure you’re making nothing off the subscription and sales from your website.”
Dr. Will is probably making farrrrr less revenue telling the truth, than the 70,000 pathological liars who call themselves “vets,” make, torturing and killing millions of defenseless Dogs and Cats with your rabies scam, poison shot scam. test-test-test-test ad infinitum scam. At least he sleeps at night. You cannot, because you are up counting how much $$$$ you scammed out of pet parents each day. trollllll.
Wow, doc…you know you’re over the target when you start getting hit by the flack. It seems “skeptivet” has abandoned his dead blog which nobody reads to attack you directly in your forum, ha ha! It’s still too late for the traditional, brainwashed vet because we’re onto them. It’s them who have no credibility or even laurels to rest upon.
So you make money from your website? At least you provide something very valuable in exchange…better to be in your shoes, than those of the idiot whining about how you’re “causing (vet) suicides” by standing up for what’s right. I wonder how much the pharmaceutical industry is paying THEM to berate you! Here a troll, there a troll, everywhere a troll-troll! Kiss his foot, troll!
(LOVE you doc!)
Too bad this comment wall does not have a “thumbs up sign.” So here are some pluses for your comment.
Aww, Nora, I so appreciate your wisdom and kind words. Yeah, the suicide thing. Wild, eh?
It’s real. And you aren’t helping. By not trying to discuss with us your thoughts and by labeling your colleagues (although most of us cringe when you call us that) money hungry and killers, you aren’t helping pets or the profession.
What you are helping is your own pocketbook with a clever marketing Schlick.
Sure beats your business of torturing and murdering hundreds of beloved Dogs or Cats each year, with your “vaccine” scam, huh? FOAD.
Unfortunately, science supports actually zero of your assertions.
And you would do a ton more by offering to discuss your views with other vets instead of labeling them money hungry and predatory.
I’m sure you’re making nothing off the subscription and sales from your website.
ATTENTION “texvet” – Obviously you, “good [for profits] vet” & “ab,” are avma/big pharma TROLLS. You all just despise all the truth we can find on the internet, about keeping our beloved Animals FARRRRRR from “vets,” a/k/a greedy liars, like your kind.
We are learning how to keep our beloved Dogs and Cats truly healthy, not in the state of chronically impaired and infinite poor and compromised quasi-sickness, like what amoral creatures like you sell to so many people. We are: WAKING UP to your type.
What is the difference between “vets” like you and a sleazy, deceptive auto mechanic. The spelling of your title.
Dr. Will: thank you for being a REAL and honest Veterinarian. We are spreading the word about Vital Animal at our site. You are among the 10% of the 80,000 vets in the US who put Patients first, not profits first, like the other despicable 90% of those “vets” who have the sheer audacity to call themselves “healers.”
You keep burying your head in the sand. I hope you get your pets to an actual vet before they or you end up with something awful.
Hiya trollll – if you are even a “vet,” have you considered doing what the “unhappy’ Vets do? Plz vaccinate yourself against: trollitis.
Love your comment.
Took my pit bull into vet for first check up. He is 3 and half. They pushed all vaccines under the sun.
The vet recommended, “flu vaccine, parvo, heartworm, then come back after a week for 2nd shot of rabies to build up immunity. After that, come back for third shot in a month.”
I asked about Rabies once every three years as I have known from my other dog. Vet said due to the fact that this is a new dog, they need to do it this way for immunity.
When I said no, the vet told me most dog groomers and kennels will not accept the dog unless all of these vaccines have been documented.
Oh, and here is the clincher, if you need to board the dog with them at their facility, the dog needs to have a flu shot. No exception.
Flu shot in the summer. Even human recommended flu shot in the winter, not summer. What a joke.
Shame on you!
And to your readers; Just remember how abusive your vet was when your child has visceral larva migrans.
– Sincerely another vet who indeed deworms pets with negative fecal floats who had to euthanize 3 unvaccinated puppies with parvo so far this week.
Unvaccinated for parvo? Seems easy to blame their deaths on that, doesn’t it?
I’ve got a homeopathic vet colleague who tracked his parvo cases over 18 mo, and found those who were vaccinated for parvo were less likely to survive the parvo they got (40% of the vac’d got sick with parvo) than those who were never vaccinated. Comparing those vaccinated for parvo as their only “prevention,” 47% died after treatment, while those protected only with a homeopathic parvo nosode fared far better: 0 deaths.
There’s more to the world of medicine than what your blinders allow you to see.
Oh FFS. Of COURSE your homeopathic vet friend would find that because if vaccines worked, it’s so much harder for you guys to peddle your snake oil. I’m sure those cases weren’t cherry picked to throw the stats at all.
Every dog I’ve ever seen that hasn’t been vaccinated for parvo that caught it has DIED. Those that have vaccines have a better chance but no guarantees.
Hundreds of dogs in my career.
When did you start with drug dealing career your big pharma bosses? Ever heard of nosodes, trolll?
I can’t believe you have a license to practice! You are quoting literature from 1992 as your support data????? Do you not realize the high suicide rate in the veterinary profession because of clients and veterinarians like you?? Grow up and act like a professional. . .
Literature from 1992 is no longer valid? Show me proof that the opposite is true then. You must have it to be so certain.
I have personally seen dogs die of preventable diseases that were vaccinated as a puppy via the standards of 1992. Thank goodness we know much more now!
ATTENTION “ab” – I have personally seen Dogs who have died prematurely, years before their time, of poison shots (“vaccines/immunizations/boosters” and their concomitant array of severe complications, sold for massive profits, by money loving, Animal HATING, “vets.”
You said: “the high suicide rate in the veterinary profession.”
Well trollll, maybe some of them finally had a temporary conscience and could not handle the massive overwhelming guilt of knowing they made many years of house, car, and vacation payments, from causing so much despicable sickness and death, and violated the TRUST, their former pet parents once placed in them.
News flash: The internet and the dissemination o the TRUTH is: ON.
We trust 90% of whitecoats as far as we can throw them. Any questions?
You cannot un-ring the information bell.
Do you have absolute proof they died from vaccines? Nor was that just your “hunch”?
I’ve seen more dogs die from parvo than I have seen vaccine reactions. Any of them. Not to mention rabies is always fatal.
You literally have no idea what you are talking about.
ATTENTION “ab” Lets use your arguement: “You are quoting literature from 1992 as your support data?????” [missing some additional question marks ?????????????]
OK, so the passage of time invalidates all know facts and data.
So you must enjoy floating around your office and having to tie everything down. You see, around 1987, whoops , I mean 1687, this nutjob wrote a piece of heretical literature entitled: “Principia Mathematica.”
As I recall it was some maniacal, iconoclastic thingy about: gravity. [He then went on to create a cookie named “fig Newtons”].
So using your premise, around 24 years later, c. 1711, everything started floating freely again, since the theory of gravity no longer was valid, and thus did not exist. Just like the 1992 support data literature referenced by Dr. Will is, according to desperate trolls like yourself, equally invalid and baseless.
Let’s all sing along to Space Oddity:
“Ground control to major AB [Tom]. Ground control to Major AB. Take your rabies shots and put your sales face on.”
Trying to find a good vet who actually cares about your animal and practices holistically isn’t easy. Although I have located a holistic vet some distance from where I live, I have asked the “alternative” minded folks around my town for referrals to like-minded vets, in case I need someone quickly who is close by.
One vet’s name kept popping up who sounded promising. Although he wasn’t advertising himself as “holistic” per se, clients love him and were saying he respects owners wishes regarding limiting or no vaccines, and was an all-around caring vet. This sounded promising to me.
Then recently I met a dog owner who mentioned going to this same vet, yet also mentioned how he prescribed Apoquel for the “terrible itch” her dog has, and that “luckily he also does liver testing and so far everything is ok…….”
So now this vet doesn’t look so good to me.
I just can’t understand how intelligent, supposedly caring vets can continue to prescribe something like Apoquel (or the multitude of other harmful drugs) when their clients are clearly suffering from their effects?
My search continues.
I went to a vet years ago who had a very intimidating bedside manner. She brought up the fact that my cat needed to be up to date on his vaccines, and I said, no thanks. Then the bully in her came out and she sneered, “it’s the LAW!”. I didn’t know then how to fight back, and my cat was given the rabies vaccine. It drove me to seek out a vet with a holistic approach. It’s shameful how these doctors treat their customers!
Oh, Pam, that’s just cringe worthy. I’m so glad you moved on.
p.s. did you ask for her badge? Quite the enforcer, sounds like!
Well as a reputable breeder of champion dogs, I can wholeheartedly sympathize with each veterinary complaint, because I’ve heard them all.
I now send my puppies home with a letter from the veterinarian, signed by my veterinarian with the dates and space that I want vaccines and procedures done. I supply mom and dad’s hip and elbow clearances etc. I don’t want my puppies spayed/neutered before their first season or before their 18 month birthday for males. I provide proof of the reasons that I do not remove dewclaws, I give papers for why its preferable to wait for vaccines to be given separately etc. I always have my puppy people sign documents stating that they understand these things.
And yet, in every litter, 2-3 of my puppy people fall to the push of their veterinarian to vaccinate vaccinate vaccinate (even at the one week well puppy check!!! Re-administering vaccines that were given one week prior! There’s always a puppy spayed or neutered at 6 months old. There’s always a puppy who gets unnecessary medications (Metacam for a 10 week old puppy who had a reaction to a fly bite???) Hip surgeries recommended for 11 week old puppies due to dysplasia etc. etc etc etc I could go on and on.
I’m so sick of the a) the veterinarians who are performing ‘medicine’ this way and b) my trusted puppy buyers falling victim to the ‘science’ presented by these veterinarians.
There are great veterinarians out there. But sadly, many don’t care. And if they do, its their pocketbooks they care about more than the patients.
Says the breeder that sells living beings for a profit.
Hah, TexVet troll,
If breeders didn’t sell their litters, you would have no business. And BTW, you have no business being in business. You are in it to make money, are you not? Hie thy trolling arse back to thine animal destroying clinic.
WOW, I cant help but feel a feeling of despair here! The people we have come to trust are lying to us over and over again and all for the almighty buck!
More or less!
I will never vaccinate again! I have found someone, a vet with the help of Dr. Falconer that is a couple hours away, but I would rather drive that distance than have to face exactly what Mrs. Z felt at her vet visit. Having just moved to a new area I went to a veterinarian who is a family friend, someone that I thought I could trust….but when I expressed my strong views on shots and vaccinations she could not understand why I don’t given them and tried to force reasoning on me that I should. She was adamant about giving heartworm medications as well. This I find funny having lived in South Florida for 20 years, I lived and worked in an area that was riddled with mosquitos YEAR ROUND I even bred dogs for 15 years and…..guess what……I never had heartworm and I didn’t treat for them either!!!! I feed a species appropriate diet and I pay attention the health of my dogs. We need to stand our ground here, for the health of our dogs. We all need to be closet homeopaths and teach ourselves about the art of homeopathy. Thank goodness for people like Dr. Falconer and others like him! I for one am sitting here next to a copy of Materia Medica by Sammual Hahnemann and will take it upon my self to learn from homeo vets and hope that someday, somehow homeopathy will become more strongly believed and used. Thank you Dr. Falconer!!!!!
You probably didn’t test for heart worms which is why your pets never had them.
Great point, Texvet. So, say all of her dogs actually had heartworm. How big a deal was that? She’s certainly not telling us they died or were even sick.
Important distinction: positive on a test vs sick from the parasite.
One I’m guessing you miss all the time.
That’s correct Dr Falconer, I did have them checked with blood draws to make sure their was no heartworm. Every time they came back heartworm negative. It helps though that I fed a species appropriate raw diet as well. And that they were well taken care of by myself and a holistic vet.
Guess you’ve never necropsied one to find worms in the heart. I have.
And I’ve seen many that were sick from it. If you don’t look, you don’t find it.
yeah, Dr, Will, I think you are being too naïve or out of touch with what is happening. I still see it as ‘money making’ not healing.
Glad you are around. It has gone way overboard.
I will blast a vet and sue if I have to.
I also found out the hard way. My second Westie was euthanized a year ago by the same vet who caused his liver failure. Yes, the vet killed my dog and that’s what I tell anyone who asks. We had moved to Florida from the Northeast. Florida’s fleas are horrific. Vet “gave” me one NexGard to “try” saying it was the best thing ever! For his wallet I’m sure of now. As they say about drugs and pushers….first one is free.
I had gone in the vet’s office with a healthy, happy, raw fed 12 year old and after that one dose he started to stagger, swerve, acted like he was drunk and it was all downhill from there. Another vet told me she wouldn’t prescribe NexGard as it had not been out there that long. What? You’re in the same practice but speaking and delivering different modalities. Yup, at two months he had no quality of life left and we were heartbroken and felt so very guilty for having listened to that nit wit. And wouldn’t you know, it was the same drug pusher who was on duty when we brought our little boy in for the final shot and all he said was, “I’m so sorry for your loss.” I wanted to stab him!!
Wasn’t sure I could go through the heartbreak again, but in the end love won out and we now have another Westie from the same bloodline. But, this time I searched and googled and read everything I could and that is how I found Will Falconer, bless you, and read and adhere to all his advice. This pup was given one round of puppy shots, the 3 in 1, thankfully not the other, by the breeder when he was 10 weeks and had a “mild” reaction. We brought him home when he was 12 weeks and worked diligently to overcome some vaccinosis issues. He has never had another vaccine and will not ever!! As for the rabies vaccine? Westie No.2’s gift….his 3 year tag works like a charm plus I’ve read from Will’s followers the other ways to by-pass. Thanks so much to all of you and especially Dr. Falconer!!
Oh, Leslie, what a briliant transformation you’ve made! From the heartache of wrongful death to a whole new way to love and care for your new charge.
Hope springing from the ashes, the loss turned into a huge gift to the next bearer of the canine baton. Bravo. I’m so proud of you!
Can I just say that it can be extraordinarily difficult to find wholistic vets in many places? I live under the shadow of Cornell (“the best veterinary school in the world” ;^p), where they dwell in the dark ages of Big Pharma, etc. There are very few local vets who do not bow to Cornell’s party line, and for several years there were absolutely none. I didn’t take my animals for any care other than emergency in that time period.
I know there must be a demand to create more vets such as yourself, Dr. Falconer. But I believe many would avail themselves of such services if they were more readily available. How do we let young, upcoming vets know that we want these services? (I have a young niece who just graduated from Tufts. She suggested I give my cat Prozac for inappropriate urination and that he “would just feel happier.” Um. No.)
Hey Janey, I think it’ll take time for the veterinary market to shake this out. When enough people are firing vets who try to shove dangerous vaccines and drugs at them (or down their dog’s throat — see Antoinette’s comment above!), the market (really you and your pocketbook) will reward those who are honest and truly holistic and have your animal’s best interests at the top of their list.
I can’t imagine how Dr. WhiteCoat competes, when so many are offering the same dangerous services. New graduates come out with a huge debt load now, and join that merry go round with others long established in the “old school” medicine they’ve just learned. How to stand out?
The smart ones will be open and interested enough to learn “alternative” medicine (in quotes, bc that medicine has lasted far longer, virtually unchanged, than the more dangerous modern medicine has). They’ll get rewarded. Maybe they’ll tell struggling colleagues who might also be open to holistic medicine, etc.
The main thing now is, you and your individual animals can no longer afford the status quo in vet medicine. It’ll damage your animals sooner or later, and when chronic disease shows up, they have nothing on the shelf to cure it. Nada. Not that they won’t try, and spend gobs of your money trying, but in the end, the animal is no better and you’re now broke.
And, I guess that’s another “entry point” where support for homeopathic or holistic medicine shows its face. “None of this is working, let’s find a good homeopath and see if he can help.” When we can, you tell three friends and your aunt, and the brush fire gets fanned a bit more.
One last thing: several vet schools have “holistic clubs,” and they ask for speakers from our ranks. The feedback is usually quite positive and a seed is definitely planted.
I am just glad that people are questioning things and that you are there to answer those questions.
We all need to wake up, not only for the sake of our animals but for our own. These days we need to question everything and get 5 different opinions.
I have been treating my animals with homeopathy and natural remedies for a few years now, that has given me the opportunity to learn and treat the humans as well but it still amazes me how many people don’t know or try natural alternatives and rather live with pain for the rest of their lives.
Good point, Maria. It all starts with questioning the accepted norms. And, maybe broader, “Is this all there is?” That’s rarely the case.
Many years ago I took my dog, George, to the vet. We had just moved into that city and I had asked my neighbors what vet they went to. At the appointment, I discovered that this particular vet preferred to take his patients to the treatment area while the owner was to remain in the waiting room. I wasn’t comfortable with this situation. We left. And I interviewed for a new vet.
Never be afraid to fire your vet. If something about the way they are treating your beloved fur friend makes you uncomfortable it is time to find another. Go for a visit when the animal is not sick or injured. Have ready a series of questions about care for your pet. Observe how they respond to your questions. Observe how the handle your fur friend and how your fur friend responds to them.
I’m happy to say that I have a wonderful vet. I can ask questions and get thoughtful answers. It is all about the welfare of my animals.
I foster for the local SPCA shelter. My most recent foster was a dog with EPI (exocrine pancreatic insufficiency) who had been through numerous tests at the SPCA hospital as they tried to discover his problem. Going to his appointments at that hospital reduced this pup to a quivering mass of nerves. I had to weigh him weekly. My vet to the rescue! He offered that I bring my foster to his clinic and weigh him there. He and his staff all made a big fuss over my foster pup at each weigh-in. The foster lost his fear of going to the vet. (He even transferred that confidence to the hospital.) My vet didn’t have to make that kind offer. He wasn’t going to make any money from helping me with my foster dog. He’s just a good man.
Right on, Layne. You have to be open to a gut feeling.
I had a lady come into my store in tears one day because her vet had lit into her for feeding raw. I mean really lit into her. Even though the lab results showed a marked improvement in her dog’s liver function. And her dog’s kidney function. Once she’d calmed down a bit, I said “And you then paid him for that abuse, right?”. Silence. She now has a great holistic vet who is working WITH her, not fighting with her. SMH.
Sounds like a confidence issue, and I get that’s not easy for everyone. Here she did this good work with raw feeding, saw the amazing results, and yet got scolded. Had her confidence in what she saw as clear results been solid enough, she could have simply asked, “Wait. What is it that *you’re* missing here? You do see how I’ve made this dog better from raw feeding, right? It’s right there in his labs that you shared with me.”
But, at least she’s on to greener pastures now. We all do what we can to navigate the rough spots.
we were abused by several including homeopathic vets plus many health shops & homeopathic chemists.the dog has been sick with swellings for over 6 yrs -has healed 50% with over 90 herbs & prayers .but all these vets abuse |& torture at death.
my dogs & i were cyberstalked & preyed on telepathically for several yrs by more than 1 vet . the puppy was orally raped by receptionist who told me she wanted to make the dog sick to get me to but the control muzzles . another vet used mind control . & so on . the dog was set up in a few dog fights by unseen instigators vets . the health shops are using me . am using prayers . no-one confessed or healed the dog . he got massive lymph swellings – the new set-up . i had given too much wormwood for the coprophagia – & the tick bites could have caused the swellings. but it was mainly controlled by more than 1 vet . have spent lot of money . nothing will heal fully . am vegetarian myself .obviously sometimes some govrnments also watch & force illness on animals , especially when the pets have been overly super healthy . & some vets actually torture & harm the animals during their death to ensure future illnesses & deformaties in puppies for exploitation . there is a huge huge war on with some vets plus the herbs natural vs the other . but i am worried about death time – we need lot of help here.
Oh, Dawn, you’ve said it all so very well.
The investment you make pays off big time, and your committment shows that so clearly. Love that you get comments about how healthy your animals are! Verification that you are on the right path.
Keep up the great work.
You as a pet owner need to educate yourself about your pet. Nutrition being a key thing to learn about with vaccines next!
I have 6 kitties and 2 big dogs! The great things I have seen happen simply with a diet that they were meant to eat! So much of “that” itch can be mitigated by diet in cats and dogs. Cats need to eat meat with some supplement tweaking and dogs are a little easier but neither should have to try to exist on a diet of highly processed cereal!
All of these heartbreaking stories about bad vets and what the animals suffer because of hubris just tears me up. How can this go on? The sad thing is that the “modern” medical system is exactly the same thing.
Do not be afraid to fire your vet/doctor and find one whom will actually help you!
I do not vet routinely and work with a homeopathic vet by phone/email when something comes up. I do have a local vet who is willing to work with me when I need something quickly and there is another vet who has great lab abilities and will tackle things no other vet will touch so I guess I am counting my blessings.
I have gotten to the point where I realize I am my critters voice and if I fail to speak, they can suffer. Please don’t let vets/drs intimidate you into causing harm. There are options out there. It simply means you have to do some leg work but it IS worth it.
I can proudly say with a heart full of love that I have vital animals and it is worth every ounce of time I put into it! You have to pay attention to your animals so you can communicate their needs to a homeopathic vet. I have seen really amazing things happen thru homeopathy! Use the resources on this site that Dr Will has taken the time to put together. There is a lot of info here even if Dr Will isn’t the vet taking care of your animals directly this site will help you. Having vital pets takes commitment but it is so worth it when folks comment on how healthy your critters look and you know why that is!
There are a lot of ‘bad’ vets out there, just like human Drs. But the stupidity of the dog owner is to blame. She knows it’s not right but she continues to do that to her pet?
1.3 lb chi mix, 10 weeks old. I begged them not to give him more than one shot at his first puppy well visit. Hours later he was throwing up, shaking, and had diarrhea. I rushed him back to the vet and they said they would open a case with the pharma who produced the shot. It was probably the vax (a bad batch?) He almost died. He didn’t eat or move for days. I’m lucky he lived. He was so close to death. The vet would never admit it was her fault. Same vet who put her hands on her hips and stomped her foot and said, “I’m the vet not you!” Same vet who told me my 13 year old cat was allergic to dust mites all of a sudden! Same vet who left a snarky message on my answering machine about my dying cat. Same vet who returned my tiny ferret to me bruised, head to toe after removing adrenal glands. Needless to say, no longer our vet.
Fired! Good for you, Holly.
Thank you for your great advice Will!
I have had a horrible experience with both of two vets after getting my first puppy after my last GSD died of cancer (which I am positive was caused by ethoxyquin in dog food, I just cannot prove it).
My new pup, who is now 10 months old, is a Yorkie/MinPin mix. The breeder insisted I take her for all three puppy vaccinations else she wouldn’t give me the pup… which seemed fair to me at the time, since I did not have to pay anything for the pup.
I took Sasha to the breeder’s vet for her first vaccination and deworming when she was 9 weeks old. She had no reaction to any of the two, but what made me think twice about going back to the vet was the fact that she tried to bulldoze me into buying Bravecto (of which I knew nothing at the time). For a pup that was only 9 weeks old and only weighed 1kg at the time, it sounded absurd to give her a poisonous substance to eat that would stay in her system for 3 months or longer, so I refused… and then I did not return to that vet at all.
When Sasha was 13 weeks old, I took her to a different vet. She did not try to sell me Bravecto, but when she vaccinated Sasha she gave her a tablet (ramming it down my pup’s throat would be a better description) without my consent. When I asked her what it was she said it was a deworming tablet. That kind of set my mind at ease, because I thought it was Drontal. Back in the 1990s when I previously owned dogs no vet ever gave anything for deworming besides Drontal, and Nemex which was a liquid.
I took my pup home, and an hour later she started screaming with pain whenever I touched her. She seemed scared to death about something. When I phoned the vet she was very sarcastic, telling me that the pup was “totally fine” when she handled her, but “if I was really concerned I was welcome to take her back at 5pm when she opens again”. I checked Sasha’s vaccination card and saw that the dewormer was called “Milbemax”. The two weeks following that was horrible! At times I thought I was losing her! I took her to yet another vet, who gave her supportive treatment until she was mostly over everything.
I began doing research, and found out that Milbemax is a heartworm drug similar to Trifexis. But why a heartworm drug in South Africa where heartworm does not exist? It made no sense!
I began doing research and found out about all the adverse reactions that dogs have to all of these pesticides. And the irony is that NO VET acknowledges the fact that these reactions are caused, or even can be caused, by these drugs.
Sasha got her 3rd vaccination when she was 17 weeks old, with (thankfully) no reaction to it. Rabies vaccination was included. It was done by the vet that treated her for the reaction against Milbemax. By then I knew a bit more about dangerous drugs, and his shelves were full of them, so I never returned to him either.
I am now in the process of looking for a holistic vet, but the ONLY one that I could find in South Africa is in Cape Town, which is almost 2000 km from where I live. And that one seems to be just as corrupt as the conventional vets that I have had these experiences with. The only question that I have asked her was whether she could direct me to a holistic practitioner in my area, and after 3 emails she still hasn’t answered that question. All she tried to do was sell me the products that she stocks.
So now I am following advice from people like you on the internet, who are not scared to say their say about “Dr Whitecoat” and their greedy methods of conduct.
Thanks for reading my comment.
Hi Antoinette, and welcome from the other side of the world! Seriously scary story about the milbemycin. I’m so glad Sasha survived it. And, as you say, WHY was she even given it in the first place??
If “the other shoe drops” with your little one (that would most likely be skin or ear problems) don’t be shy about hiring a homeopathic vet for telephone consulting.
It really doesn’t matter where you live. If you can clearly describe symptoms (which you get better at the more you do it), a curative path can be laid out by a dedicated homeopathic vet.
I tell you how to best choose one in my Apoquel Alternatives Report, which you’ll find by following the Apoquel links in this article.
We’re glad to have you join us and look forward to hearing more from your experiences in So. Africa.
Thank you so much Will!
Scary story indeed!
Glad to have discovered you. I am a FB friend of Roger Biduk’s, and he has various links to your sites on his profile. 🙂
As usual, Will “Jeremiah” Falconer, this vet abuse post continues to wake up the flock! At least it should! Twenty-five years ago I adopted the motto: “I can do better than a vet”. A few years back I changed it to: “I WILL (meaning Dr. “Will” Falconer) do better than a vet”.
You have surpassed the title of a vet by being a very present help in times of learning and in times of need.
Changing the word ‘can’ to the word ‘will’ brings to mind your shared knowledge and, when applied, brings about the good, healthy results I have come to expect.
You’re a good person, Will… always barking for the right reasons.
Trying to “wag more, bark less,” but sometimes barking is a better wake up call. 😉
Yeah, exactly the arrangement I have with Pookie’s vet…they’re willing to do some blood tests, even tho they know I’m going to refuse all drugs and vaccines, so they stopped trying to push them. Their practice seems dead.
The big battle I had with them this year was hyperthyroidism. Pookie’s numbers went up to 3.1 so they started hawking medication, and if she couldn’t tolerate that, irradiating her thyroid gland at the unreal price of $4000!
I had a bottle of X-2 Nacent Iodine–gave her a drop a day until her last test was nearly perfect, (1.3) and the Iodine was all it took.
Iodine’s critical for gut health, immune function and thyroid function.
It blows my mind that they wanted to put her on some crazy, low-iodine diet and irradiate her thyroid gland! Yeesh! Now they want to know what “reversed” her climbing thyroid values. Maybe there’s hope they’ll embrace a nutritional approach–stop irradiating so many poor cats that just need bioavailable, truly Nacent Iodine, if I tell them what worked. I kinda doubt it. Not profitable.
Having to be vigilant and guard my poor cat from their hack jobs sorta sucks, doc. They still suggest surgery at every visit and want to yank her teeth, but they really just can’t believe she’s doing so well nearly three years after they insisted I should put her to sleep. How can we NOT lose trust in Dr. Whitecoat, when it appears our money’s more important to him than our pet’s wellbeing? I get nauseous when I see giant billboards advertising “Low-Cost Vaccines,” and wish I could turn back the clock to the day I let that mercenary vet give Pookie the rabies shot that almost killed her, because he said it “was the law.” We’re making progress…keep up the good work, doc!
Well, Nora, you never cease to amaze me! Are you telling us you took Pookie from hyperthyroidism to well with just iodine? If so, I need to learn from you, as I’ve recently taken on a hyperthyroid cat family as patients, and while homeopathy is taking hold nicely, we *rarely* cure this condition. And it’s the latest runaway chronic disease in the cat world that was, wait for it:
Entirely Unknown when I went through vet school, just a few decades ago.
Was it under diagnosed? No way. You can’t miss this dramatic disease!
So, even if the iodine is palliation, I want to learn more. Where to read up, please?
Read the iodine book by Dr. David Brownstein. It is for people but if most people have a iodine deficiency it would follow that dogs do too. Would not use the Nacent iodine. Use the Lugol’s. I use 3rdi Lugol’s Iodine 5%. Have been adding a few drops to the dogs water. Look up on eBay 3rdi Iodine and he has info on this site.
Well sir, I failed to bookmark the article about the study I read, which I heard about from Dr. Ed Group. A recent one–cited evidence that Nacent Iodine from the pure, purple crystals heals the thyroid gland and restores gut function as well. Fairly critical not to put a pet on a LOW IODINE diet, as many vets suggest, although some are beginning to catch on that MORE Iodine is needed, not LESS. Cats seem to be genetically very similar to people in their need for Iodine and there is a chronic deficiency in a high percentage of the people tested. Although the article did not address cats specifically, it makes sense for cats to be deficient as well, because of our common food sources. Food is truly medicine as Socrates said, and you have to get rid of the chemical-laden cans!
Most commercial pet foods are the problem, of course. They use cheap fillers and synthetic vitamins, so if they bother to put any Iodine in the food at all, the living body can’t utilize it. Synthetic vitamins have right-spin molecules that can’t enter cells which are naturally left-spin. It has to be Nacent to be bioavailable.
The big, unrecognized problem is the chemicals in the lining of the cans. Those chemicals affect people too, and look how much bigger we are than a cat! Duh!
I believe the plastic linings used in pet food cans contain other chemicals that trigger hyperthyroidism in cats. If you take a plump kitty and feed canned, sooner or later he’ll be thin if the cans are lined with BPA plastic. I stopped giving Pookie all canned foods if they don’t say “BPA Free Liner” on the can. It’s not the cheaper foods that are free of this endocrine destroyer, but I have found Whole Paws at Harry’s and a couple other brands that have stopped using BPA linings, and I am now feeding a little canned again…which she LOVES. She gets tired of my cooking, I suppose, as does my husband, LOL! (hey, I’m not THAT bad! We all like variety. You can only eat so many mushrooms before you want a cheeseburger under them.)
Pookie is very small so I gave one drop a day. A larger cat might need two or three drops. (right from the bottle.) It took about a month for results. I give a maintenance dose now, once or twice a week. Oh, it stains bedding, so beware Iodine slobber! This is not like homeopathic remedies that are one size, the dose has to be according to weight/size, based on results. I calculated a dose for a six-pound cat based on a “human dose,” which is all the bottle gives you. Dr. Group has a website, I think it’s Global Healing Center or something close to that. The X-2 is an InfoWars product, developed by him. I hear Alex Jones swims in Barton Springs, too doc. Tell him I said “Hi” if you see him, LOL!
Brownstein is an expert on several things, like diabetes (diabetessummit.com) and thyroid.. there are only about 40 drs who know how to reverse diabetes, or cure it.
I know that when I tried to heal my thyroid, I had no support , but found that traditional Chinese med has been curing hypo and hyper for thousands of years. It should still be available at ITMonline.org look in the articles under disease names .
I hope Dr. Will will not be harassed by others drs now . Protect yourself.. they are even trying to stop supplements of all kinds now and anh-usa.org has a petition to send ..
KellyBroganMD is the people version of healing , trained by Dr. Gonzales in NYC, and now 12-24 natural healng physicians that were actually healing cancer have been found dead, The last one had his research raided by the gov and he was found dead floating n the river behind his home three days later. The DOJ/gov says they all have died due to ‘natural ‘ causes or suicide, which doesn’t fit with any of them. naturalnews.com has article.
Nora, what did you use, if anything, as companion supplements to the Lugol’s ? I know dogs make their own C. Did you give anything for selenium and did you add the Celtic Sea Salt? I also read Dr. Brownstein’s book and my thoughts also were”my dog must be deficient in it also”. I started adding 5 drops of 2% and Celtic Sea Salt to his water about five days ago. I have a westie. He’s had stomach issues for 6+ years as well as chronic allergies. Let me tell you, his stomach has had no issues since the first day of iodine and his allergies are better than they have been in months. I am amazed as I have had his thyroid checked and it was “okay”. We have tried everything and I mean everything. He’s been on a raw food diet for 2.9 years but his allergies and stomach issues had only gotten worse. I sure hope I’m on to something here.
I didn’t use Lugols…I can only speak to what I actually used which was that X2 stuff from Alex Jones’ store. I’ve used other Iodines, without great results. I’m a hard sell, so I believe there really is something to their process. I threw the kitchen sink at Pookie’s cancer so to speak; put her on an all organic diet with every meal containing some extract or nutrient known to target stem cells. You can’t eradicate cancer without killing the stem cells–this is why toxic chemo kills the patient, not their cancer. Chemo has no effect on cancer stem cells. Natural compounds that kill stem cells abound, however! Even the lowly Dandelion snuffs out stem cells. I boil the root, stem & leaves for a “tea”.
Nutrition really benefits any living body, and corrects a lot of problems like allergies, infections, etc, because the key to health is a high-function immune system–disease disappears. In addition to the improved diet and organic cotton bedding, one major change was to PURIFIED water. The flouride and hydrofluorosylicic acid compounds in your tap water are sickening your animals, just like they are robbing you of your health, if you’re a tap water user. I even bathe her in purified water. Fluoride causes bone cancer, among other ailments.
The supplements I give her are B12 and D3, Milk Thistle for her liver, Astralgus extract, pharmaceutical grade wild salmon oil that’s been filtered and purified, mixed with a capsule of Ubiquinol, (the oil is high in EFA and DHA.) Taurine and Lysine, Bio C, and the rest of her vitamins come from cooked carrots, celery and other vegetables. (She eats a lot of quail, turkey, chicken & chicken livers, a little venison and guinea hen–varied proteins.) I give a vitamin mixture from NuVet Plus with blue-green algae for cats–they make one for dogs too, and she also gets prebiotics and probiotics to build up the good gut bacteria.
In addition, I put enzymes on everything she eats. Older pets really need some enzymes, even those eating raw benefit.
I put Tumeric on everything I cook for her and load her meal up with mushrooms cooked in organic butter. Black pepper makes the Tumeric more bioavailable. When it became clear that table salt is terrible for multiple reasons, I got a grinder and Pink Himalayan Salt, which has a dozen good minerals in it. Minerals are an often overlooked thing–pets need more than commercial pet foods contain. Her fur had fallen out! When I started her on minerals and the fish oil, it grew back in and oh man, does poor little Pookie look better! The vital lipids alone in the fish oil cure many ailments, like itchiness and dull coat. She suffered from constipation which caused vomiting. Raw canned organic pumpkin resolved that completely, just a teaspoon a day stirred into her food, or organic goat’s milk yogurt. I spend the big bucks on her food, not the veterinarian.
Err on the side of caution with selenium. It’s toxic in large doses. Cats and dogs need only tiny, trace amounts to see benefit.
One thing that might help your Westie with his tender tummy is fulvic/humic acid added to his water bowl or mixed into his food. This stuff is miraculous. It contains so many minerals–too many to list here. I put it in the water bowl the other four cats use, as well as Pookie’s, and they love it! Fulvic acid chelates, makes the nutrients in food available to the body instead of passing out in the urine. It counteracts some of the effect of toxic glyphosate found in our soils!
I don’t recommend a cooked diet for cats…there are not enough enzymes or whole, unaltered proteins in cooked food;
I am using a weird compound made from a certain poppy which is anti-tumor, and it has to be mixed with cooked food according to the cratchety old dude that makes the stuff, when I am done I will put her back on raw food, which is what cats are supposed to eat, of course. Until then I’m giving her the best, wholesome cooked food possible.
Cats and dogs both need Iodine in a bioavailable form that can enter cells efficiently. It’s protective and curative, in my observation. Iodine is important for gut function, which is where the immune system is. When the gut is balanced, the immune system kicks in and healing occurs. I hope this all makes sense to you and helps, somehow. Research is ongoing to naturally cure Pookie sans the conventional cut, poison burn model. The premise is that all disease is basically a nutritional deficiency. We can’t really rely on “tests” which may not reflect the actual state of health; rather, make a clinical diagnosis of how well your dog’s doing, based on his general condition and how comfortable he seems, because the guidelines for Iodine and Iodide surely seem to be poorly formed. Best to you & your Westie!
Wow, Nora, you have really gone all in on this nutritional approach to curing cancer! I am so impressed, and so grateful you stopped back to help Paula (and me and every other reader!). Just from reading this, I’m going to get some iodine and fulvic acid for myself. Just ran into the latter about two days ago, probably around the time Ty Bollinger came to interview me, and when new things pop up 2-3x in short order, I pay attention to that synchronicity!
Thanks again, from all of us. We’re lucky to have you and your dedication in this pack!
You are SO welcome! The real credit goes to all the researchers, whose important work I read, apply, and pass on to receptive folks who can benefit. Thanks for making me a member of your pack!
Wow, you’re a celebrity, doc! Ty is awesome, huh?
Oh, far from a celebrity, but having such a great pack just swells my heart. Ty fit right in. Like talking to an old friend instead of being interviewed. He’s putting something together on the Truth About Cancer in Our Pets, I believe. Due out in 2017. He left my office hot to call his wife to start cracking a raw egg over the kibble they are feeding their best friend!
Oh my gosh….THANK YOU for the thoughtful response Nora! I’m sorry for the late reply. I so appreciate your taking the time to write all of this! I’m on my way out the door but just wanted to say thank you. I’ll write back as soon as I get back home.
Wow Nora, I am so impressed with your knowledge and want to thank you again for taking the time to respond! I am right there with you on all that you are saying about cancer cells and the immune system!
Please correct me if you think I am wrong here. I have been chasing a “good immune” system for years, trying to build his up. It just hasn’t helped that much in our case. Don’t misunderstand, I do believe a healthy immune system is important BUT, I think I’m learning that the immune system can’t do its job unless cellular health is achieved first. Cellular health can’t be achieved if the whole body is not in balance meaning it is getting and absorbing the proper number of minerals, vitamins. It should be that we, humans and animals get those things from our food. Because of modern day farming and depletion of vitamins and minerals in our soil, it’s impossible to achieve balance so we have to supplement. I did not know but have learned that every cell in the body requires iodine to function. We need salt (not table salt), mineral rich in order for the body to absorb and use the iodine. Without iodine, the adrenals crash at some point leaving the body helpless to make the proper hormones, cortisol and a ton of other jobs. Mineral rich salt is also the body’s natural antihistamine. The body also cannot detox without iodine. I think your spot on that all disease is a nutritional deficiency.
My westie (Eddie) has been taking fulvic/humic acid for about a year now. His food is organic, free range pastured meat and currently he’s eating lots of red, fatty meat consisting of beef, buffalo, duck, venison. Pork and rabbit sometimes. He drinks reverse osmosis water. I hadn’t thought of using that water to bath him in but that’s a good idea! He has a very large fatty tumor next to his groin. I had started giving him the turmeric w/pepper and the tumor slowed down quite a bit. His stomach just couldn’t handle it so I had to stop which brings me to another point. Have you heard of bloodroot? It’s an herb that can be taken internally and its made into a salve as well. I have used it on myself. On three spots. One that was diagnosed as basal cell, a spot that looked like basal cell and a spot that had been removed that was basal cell and “they got it all”. The salve only reacts to abnormal cells and not healthy cells. All three spots reacted and it pulls the cancer cells with the stem cell out of the skin. It forms an “eschar” and the eschar falls out only after it has removed everything. Sometimes, the spots will need to be resalved until you don’t get a reaction from the bloodroot anymore. The scar is very minimal and the spot heals nicely. There’s a Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/blacksalve/
There are stories that are incredible. People removing lung, breast and many, many other forms of cancer from their bodies. There are many who have used it on their pets with terminal cancers and have won the battle. Tremendously, positive results. I believe there is also a bloodroot group just for pet on Facebook as well. I had planned on trying the capsules with Eddie for his tumor but hesitated because of his stomach issues because it can cause stomach upset for some. It didn’t with me, but little Eddie is a different story. If all keeps going well with his stomach issues, I think I’ll give it a try. Ideally, it would better for his body to detox it, but it just can’t right now. I was told milk thistle could make his itching worse. Actually, I’m hoping the iodine might take care of the tumor because it’s a known cancer/tumor killer. The salt is also supposed to help with the iodine detox so it won’t be so drastic. People are also having awesome results with their pets with essieac tea in curing cancer.
Thank you for the warning on Selenium! I did not know! I just looked at the Nuvet product and saw that is has all of the supporting vitamins and minerals in it recommend for iodine so I think I’ll order it so that I’ll have the piece-of-mind knowing correct ratios are in there!! He’s been taking lipids for years. He takes probiotics three months on and three months off. I’ll check into the enzymes…thank you! Hadn’t heard of the blue-green algae. Is it a source for minerals?
Nora, I want to send you a big virtual hug…THANK you for taking the time to respond! I have learned much from your post and I too will continue on with my research. It’s ashame so much research is required to heal ourselves and our pets the way nature intended. Nature doesn’t make mistakes but the whitecoats sure do! The hardest part is finding all of the sneaky stuff they put in our food and environment for our “own good” to find out the damage they have caused. Wishing you the very best with your little Pookie! She’s in good hands, fur sure!
This is so very sad to me… And, the exact reason why I’ve stopped working as Vet Assistant (20yrs). I was tired of only seeing clients & their pets for vaccines… (Along with the ear issues or anal glands.) I didn’t sign up for the job to only see pets for vaccines… I signed up to help pets & their pet parents understand what is needed to better care for them… I can do that if I worked at Petsmart & is less likely to get bit!
It seems that even the good Vets are brainwashed in the vaccine dept. I could see a direct correlation between the vaccines, & their illnesses that inevitably came a year or two later that the Vets/staff refused to.
I also rescue dogs & a few cats… I often would seriously chastised & beat up for not vaccinating my personal pets every year (even my 14yr old) & for using natural remedies that they thought were hocus pocus. My rebuttal was that it just doesn’t make sense to vaccinate every year for the same thing… We don’t do that to humans, why would we do that to our pets? Then I’d get beat up some more saying that I was a disaster waiting to happen… I’ve had over 150 dogs & cats come through here, all having their scheduled puppy/kitten shots (even if they were an adult) because the shelter required it in our to rescue or adopt, and there’s never been illness come through here besides ringworm.
I appreciate what you’ve seen and the beatings you’ve taken for daring to speak up against the madness, Moonbeam. You’re experience since you left your tech work clearly speaks to the success possible by stepping on to a more natural path.
Why would anyone continue seeing such a horrible vet? That vet should be reported to the state review board!
My ‘tail’ of abuse is quite different. I was babysitting one of my puppies while his owner went out of state to get married. The dog got sick with what was clearly HGE (Hemorrhagic Gastroenteritis). I’d seen it before, and knew the treatment was sub Q fluids and something for nausea. The vet I went to refused to give fluids unless I had a myriad of unnecessary tests done, and treated me as the adversary (probably because I knew what I was talking about, I’d worked at an emergency vet’s in the past.) She allowed the dog to lay their on the floor bleeding for 2 and a half hours (I was so upset I didn’t realize how much time had gone by) before finally agreeing to give an IV, and then instead of giving the pain med she’d told me, decided to give an NSAID that’s normally giving for arthritis!
The dog did better for a few hours, but died in my arms in the early hours of the morning. The morning of my friend’s wedding!
Adversarial relationships are rarely productive. I’m sorry the pup had to bear the brunt of such hubris.
I think, as Dr. Traverse stated above, it pays to set up your expectations early on. Firmly, but kindly, and watch for the response. If it’s “shields up!” you know it’s time to keep looking.
An approach I’ve had my clients use quite effectively over the years is (note: I end up being the “primary physican” most often for my clients) saying something like, “I’m presently happy with my homeopathic (or holistic, if that’s the case) vet, but would you be willing to work with me in case I need emergency surgery or diagnostics done?”
Most, when approached like this, are happy to provide the services you ask for. Those who aren’t, you’ll know it’s time to move on.
Anyone reading this blog is surely beginning to understand we have a choice, and a responsibility, to make intelligent decisions for our pets’ (and out own!!) health and wellness care. Fire those vets who “put” your dog on a med you don’t want! And who insist their way is the ONLY way. I have worked hard to educate my local vets about what is acceptable to me. They now respect me and my choices. When I took Freida in recently for blood work (Freida being a mini-dachshund with a mammary tumor the size of a golf ball, which we are managing homeopathically), the vet said —“Wow, she looks good!” And no mention of vaccines. It is all about what they expect and know that you will tolerate. They know Freida’s primary vet is a holistic homeopath and they are willing to accept me on my terms. (And on the more sensitive side, this vet literally began crying when I reminded her it had been a year since she had to come to my house to euthanize Lionheart. I wonder how a caring vet can make it!) We have a job to do. Educate your vet or fire her/him if education is not an option!
I’ve come to the conclusion that the no. 1 quality in a good vet is to LISTEN to the owner. If a vet disagrees with me, I would expect a rational reason why rather than “because I said so”. I have a GSD who I tell vets will allow open heart surgery provided you let me keep firing tiny treats into her mouth and do not let the tech put her into a head lock. With her full focus on me, she has allowed needle aspiration of a small lump, all kinds or examination, etc with nary a peep….and kisses for the vet. If a vet ignores me, I leave with a stressed, unhappy dog. Unfortunately, one may have to go through a few vets to find a good one…and hope they don’t move.
Just say NO to drugs, vaccines and NO to the conventional vets.
They killed my last dog with vaccines. It was work to find another puppy with no vaccines and NO microchip. All the rescues required overvaccination and microchips and disagreed with my holistic care practices that we have slowly been learning in the last few years. Adopting a dog seemed to be impossible, which is so sad, as we did not qualify even though I did give my last dog a great life but I did not know all the vets were slowly killing my dog with vaccines.
We tried to find a healthy adult dog that was not vaccinated on craigslist but to no avail. Everyone proudly stated their dog was vaccinated, on commercial dog food, microchipped, etc
This puppy was not vaccinated, but we did research and bought Nosodes for parvo nosode, distemper nosode, rabies nosode, lyme tick nosode, ehrlicia tick nosode, etc.
The nosodes are the safe alternative to dangerous disease causing vaccines.
We do mostly raw whole organic eggs ground up in the blender to grind the egg shells, veggies, bananas, carrots and apples slices for treats and dehydrated raw and raw when we can find non radiated raw food. Looking for raw green tripe, etc.
The vet will only be for emergencies and for an annual bloodtest then we will find alternatives for any ailments.
I don’t trust most vets. I wish so much that there were a holistic vet in every city and town to guide us but no so lucky but we keep looking. We may have found a real holistic vet 2 hours from here.
My 4 yr old GSD is a raw fed (organic) healthy, happy, high energy, confident dog who loves people & other dogs. One day she awoke with a non weight bearing limp and I rushed her to the vet. The vet did a cursory exam and sent in a tech with a proposal for treatment amounting to over $1,000+. In the list was vax’s (her rabies was 3 mos. exp. but I told the vet I intended to do titers, not boosters). They refused to treat my dog unless I agree to update all vax. I took my limping dog & left, found a vet who agreed to titers and found the real cause of my dog’s limp…soft tissue injury caused by her no-pull harness, and not a joint problem as 1st vet mis-diagnosed.
P.S. Cost was a mere fraction of first vet estimate. Best is a still happy, healthy, non-limping dog whose original vax still provided FULL immunity.
Withholding treatment to get you to buy into more vaccinations is low. Amounts to ransom, holding your dog’s health hostage. Good for you for leaving, and further, for proving immunity was present!
Wow Barbara, you are a testament to exactly how it should go down! When backed against the wall because you would not give in to the vets demands – you left and found another vet. It’s that simple. There are no shortage of vets. Don’t let them bully you.
State law will not allow this in many areas. If we don’t vaccinate, the dog will be quarantined. That does not mean stay at home. It means choice of kennel/location by AC at a kennel with cost borne by parent. This can run into the $thousands, with no alternative and many pet parents unable to bear the cost.
Let’s look at your scare tactics here for a sec.
Where you’d get that one? If a dog bites someone, and there’s suspicion of rabies, the quarantine is 10 days. Don’t know how that’d run into the thousands.
I’m speaking from experience. You?
Why not find a new vet? I had a very arrogant vet that didn’t listen to a word I said and made me feel stupid. His colleague also told me that dogs don’t produce histamines and that’s why they need steroids for allergies.
So I found a new vet. I won’t let anyone treat me, or more importantly, my dogs that way.
My vet put my dog on Apoquel. I didn’t want to give it to her because I don’t want to damage her liver. Besides anything that compromises the immune system is like giving your dog HIV. She is 15 and VERY itchy. No one knows what is wrong with her. I don’t know what to do. I quit the Apoquel, then, started again because she was in distress from the itching. It is not working very well any more. Please help.
Dear Ms. Brunner,
I, too, was told Apoquel is a “miracle drug” and at first it gave my dog and us great hope. After reading this site we immediately stopped the med.
Recently our beloved English Springer began to bite his legs, still scratched some, had the runny nose forever and his breathing is labored. Most concerned we went to the vet…said it was okay to have these symptoms! Went back to the original vet…same scenario. Then, our dear dog just quit eating, then when coaxed with people food he threw up and quit drinking. What a time we had in saving him this week! Had blood work which thankfully was normal but xray showed raw esophagus with stomach irritation high level. He had to have I.V. fluids all day for severe bloody UTI and possible prostate infection. He still has not moved his bowels regularly and is eating just bites of Rachel Ray dry food and her soup bone. He ate some grilled chicken which the vet said not to give him. He has to go out all night long to wet…my husband, who takes him out all hours of the night has slept in the living room recliner for 5 nights now while I try to sleep, as I work part time. Even now the doggie, 8 years old and Beautiful, is breathing very noisily but he is getting some sleep. He is once again drinking cool water from the well which he enjoys. We have been most livid over not being told Apoquel can compromise the immune system. Because of the UTI he is on 2 weeks of a generic antibiotic the vet said was safe. Next the vet wants to neuter our pet to “save his prostate” whatever that means. We are at a loss as to what to do next, as he is not out of the woods in our opinion. We have no children. He is our son! Many loved ones are praying for us and I know God cares for these precious 4 legged ones. Just wanted to let you know this has been our plight from the med no one said was dangerous.
I hope your pet is better.
Quit feeding hm dry food and start with a raw based diet slowly that will improve his immune system.
So why aren’t you consulting Will?
Oh, I am. Just a “full inn” right now, taking care of my current patients and readying a course that could save people from all this craziness in the first place!
Wow..I’m wondering if Mrs Z has the same vet I have?
Going back July 2015 my vet…a different vet then…kept hammering away with all the vaccines that were at this point over a year late and I gave in. This is before I started reading your blog.
Almost exactly 3 weeks later my cherished family member turned into Old Yeller. He became extremely vicious to other dogs, the same dogs he plays with for years, and now he wants to kill them. Over the next year this Old Yeller syndrome gradually faded away but not completely.
Fast forward…My new vet hammered me about being past due on the current rabies and started quoting Maryland State law. I now wondered if my vet was going to turn me in if I skipped this year’s rabies vaccination. I asked the vet why vets only want to give an annual vaccination and not a three year vaccination. I had already done my homework and knew that Maryland allows either annual or three year rabies vaccinations but vets have forgotten about the three year rabies vaccinations.
Of course I know why this is….the nice vet then states we can give him a three year vaccine. I agreed wondering if someone would knock on my door and take our Shih Tzu away if I walked out without the shot.
Got the vaccine and exactly three weeks later my little Shih Tzu turned into Old Yeller again. I grabbed him and kept him away from his dear friend afraid he would attack the other dog.
By the way…I talked to my vet about Rabies Maism and she assured me that it’s impossible and there is no proof that a rabies vaccine could cause a dog to turn vicious. She said it was probably his way of protecting me.
Some symptoms I have seen on my dog are; eyes wide open staring off into space drooling like a blood hound, as if he is in another world, teeth clicking together so hard I thought he may break a tooth, and convulsions of various kinds.
Even though Miken the dog had his rabies vaccine the vets still send out cards reminding me of the other vaccinations he still needs. These reminders appear in my mailbox monthly.
Thanks for all you do Will.
By the way…I don’t live in Iceland, just wanted secure email.
Just tell the old vet that you have hired a new vet. Even if you didn’t, just lie. You have the right to fire the vet as the vet is your employee that you are paying for their services. Lie and say you are going elsewhere to get your vaccines and then don’t get the vaccines. Its your dog. Or lie and say you are moving to another state so please take you off the mailing list and email list as you will no longer need their services.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with a shih-tzuh getting the same vaccine as a mastiff or a great dane. Ignorance of immunization should be no excuse in the veterinary world. Abysmal!
Utterly appalling…but sadly not too surprising. I am glad Mrs. Z found your website as she is sure not to find herself and her pet in that situation anymore!
Regarding why people just do what vets say….it’s the same reason they follow the direction of human doctor’s- it’s a person in authority! Not everyone is able in the moment to oppose what a person, who by society, has always been deemed to know all, know more than you and know best! Not to mention if you are told your pet has a serious ailment, most people freeze and panic- they are scared because of what they are being told and how they “must act now”.
Having said that, it most certainly is not me… anymore. Many years ago (before there was so much info available on the internet!) I watched my beloved pet die of liver cancer. What I learned during and after (completely on my own without the help of my vet) is that everything I had been told was in his best interest throughout his life; was only in the best interest of creating an unhealthy, immune depressed, chronically ill dog. My current dog has not been vaccinated in over 8 years; and he won’t. He got a rabies shot because of where I live; case closed for life! Now, if I ever did have to take him to the vet for anything other than perhaps a wellness blood test (I am lucky to be able to treat my pets with herbs, homeopathy, essential oils and orthomolecular medicine myself; with access to a human homeopath who works on animals and does fur testing) my rule is that unless it is truly a life saving necessity in that moment, my response is “thank you, if I choose to follow your medical recommendation(s) I will let you know” at which point I leave. In the hours or days after, when my head is clear, I assess my options, research, learn, if necessary seek a second opinion and only then do I make a decision of what’s best for my pet. But, that is something you will face great opposition too (whether it’s veterinary or human medicine), so you must be confident and strong in your beliefs- or they will get to you and make you question what you know to be right.
Thank you Dr. Falconer for all you do to educate pet guardians about what TRUE health in wellness in our pets is about…..it’s about vitality; that most people don’t truly understand until they actually see it happen in their pet by giving them a species appropriate, clean lifestyle and eliminating as much as possible pharmaceuticals from life.
I’ve been going to a holistic vet for the past two years. They want to examine the dogs every six months, do vitamin D, cancer testing, heart worm tests etc. The cost per dog is over $1,000. Their “annual” check up is coming up. I think that I’m going to refuse.
There are plenty of money scams in the holistic world too! The best path is to be well-informed so YOU, the steward, can make the best decisions. It is a very empowering state!
Yes, there are plenty of posers [fakes] who call themselves “holistic” vets. I use this acid test to find real, v. fake, holistic vets: When I call their office for the first time, if the receptionist asks [demands] “Has [your Dog] had all it’s shots yet? Do you have the vaccination records?”
If I hear that, I say ” I am so sorry, for moment I actually though you all were holistic vets! I must be drunk! BYE!!!”
This is not much different from the “chip and salsa” test we do whenever we try a new Mexican restaurant.
When we sit down, if the chips taste like they are from a bag of genuine GMO doritos, and/or the salsa tastes they they made it up as recently as last year, s.p.l.i.t. — Tell the waiter: “I am sorry, but I have to leave because of an emergency.”
This is a bona fide emergency – you need Mexican food, and you cannot get it at the restaurant you are in.
Just like you cannot get holistic, healthy “Falconer” care, at any holistic poser vet selling cancer-causing “vaccines” and other allopathic dangerous “treatments.”
(Since I did not attend medical skule lol, I’m looking up the definition of “allopathic”‘ now – help me out “texvet trolllll,” – Isn’t that French for: HIGHLY PROFITABLE?)
I try to stay away from vets in general. I do go to the same vet for 40 years now but,only if I have a serious problem.
16 years ago my dog Thunder,a basenji ,was prescribed Prozac for Seizure related aggression. After almost 2 years on the drug he died of liver failure. Correct me if I’m wrong but, I think it was the Prozac.
This was my heartdog,I still grieve for him after all these years.
I search the internet for natural remedies for all my dogs now.
Two months ago my basenji Rocky was diag. with fibrosarcoma,it is in his mouth and I was told he had only about 3 months to live.
I have him on supplements from your website and others. I hope he can beat this as I can’t lose him.
My vet said he could remove his bottom jaw but couldn’t give me hope that it would help.
I know it was the rabies vaccine that did this to him. I will never vaccine any of my dogs again.
Why is it that the vet community doesn’t learn from it’s mistakes.
They cause so much heartache.
I hear you, Kathryn. Heartache and expense.
We’ve seen the correlation between vaccination and seizures for well over 100 years in homeopathic medicine. I’m sorry you had to experience this. And glad it’s shaped how you think with every dog to follow.
you should be aware that fibrosarcoma related tumors are (local) and since rabies is generally given in the right hind limb, the relation to the mouth and the rabies vaccines is pretty much impossible.
also the rate of vaccine related sarcomas is 0.01% and that’s in CATS…since they are the most documented of cases, not dogs
This is all so very scary!!!! My three Chihuahuas are up for their rabies vaccinations after 3 years and my vet insists that my 7 year old who has had severe reactions including anaphylactic shock twice (and that is not the worst reaction he has had!) can NOT receive an exemption. Actually she said ” The Rabies vaccine is mandatory”. This has led me to finding a holistic vet to with ALL of my dogs to, AND I will no longer vaccinate any of them. I have long stopped ALL other vaccinations OTHER than the MANDATORY rabies and now refuse that one as well!!!!
Kalen, standing ovation! “Mandatory” in the face of a reaction history like this? There’s a word for this, if it ever took place:
It’s called malpractice.
Keep up the good work. Yours is an empowering example for others.
The term “Mandatory” used by the Vet is most likely related to local or state laws requiring Rabies vaccination.
You never drive even 1 MPH over the speed limit. right. It is the LAW!
FYI: illegal “laws” are NOT laws.
Mandatory is correct. The owner of the chihuahua’s would have no recourse if a bite occurred if they are not current on rabies. This is a human public health law.
Rabies: The Big Scam by John Fudens DVM
Not true, Epi. Read the Compendium on Animal Rabies put out by the ASPHV and CDC carefully. You’ll see that quarantine is an option, if the owner refuses euthanasia. Readers who are Vital Animal Pack members: search on that word ‘compendium’ and you should find a downloadable file for your you to keep. I believe I even highlighted the pertinent section for you in there.
Out of date on rabies? That neither means your animal is susceptible to get rabies, nor does it mean if your animal bites someone, euthanasia is inevitable. Get well educated on this, as you may well be more knowledgeable than the vet on this, and certainly more than the Animal Control guy or gal who shows up.
The problem is that if your dog is quarantined, you may have no choice about where or how that is accomplished. It does not mean that you can just keep him at home. In some states AC will “choose” a kennel/alternative and you will be responsible for the bill. This can run into substantial sum, and many dog guardians simply won’t be able to afford that.
Hi epi – Hahahahaha – good one “human public health law.” You mean like the polio vaccine scam, or the flu shot scam, or the many scores of other big pharma/ama/avma frauds and scams in the past 60 + years?
The day that this criminal government actually cares about public health, will be a cold day in hell. Ever heard of cigarettes, chemtrails, cholesterol conspiracy, Mena, AR drug smuggling, scores of known and highly suppressed cancer cures, illegal wars etc. etc. etc. etc. X 100? I could go on and on and on… The psychotic u.s. government and their make-the-1%-RICHER “laws” [cough] ad infinitum, are more dangerous to public health than anything.
It should be abundantly clear, to even any mildly awake critical thinker, that the u.s. government, is and has been for over 150 despicable years, the absolute enemy of We the People, our children, and also our beloved Pets.
Don’t forget that government manufactured Zika Virus scam, just so they can spray the toxic Pesticides!!!! Zika has existed for many many years, now the Government is using it to dumb us down, and kill us off with More Pesticides!!!! One day soon they will come out with yet another Vaccine that we MUST have!!!
Our vet claims to be holistic, but continues to insist on making my little 10 year old terrier mix get the rabies vacine regularly. She has been vacinated as recommended since birth. No more, after reading Dr. F’ s literature and reseach, we are going to follow the REAL holistic path. We are still on Apoquel, but as soon as I can find a holistic treatment, that too will be discontinued. Just how can this woman claim to be a holistic practioner??? Beats me.
She is called a: greedy, despicable liar wearing a cheap polyester jacket with her name on it. Just like our >former< "vets."
Even more important than why is this DVM doing what she’s doing — WHY IS THIS WOMAN LISTENING TO HER, COMPLYING WITH HER, AND THEN GOING BACK ???? She can see the harm that is being done, and she obviously knows how to get on the internet. So, Leave! She is as complicit in the abuse of her animal as is the DVM.
This is exactly the thought I had on reading this. Why go back?
In the last few weeks I have had people telling me an emergency vet visit for a cat with crystals in the urine cost over $1,600 (easily prevented)
a dog who reacted to a flea spray (sold by the vet) was taken to emergency, there for 1 night, cost $3,000
a dog with parvo would have cost the person $5,000 for 5 days treatment and stay
These are Aussie $ – so more in US$.
Why are people going to vets anymore? You need a second mortgage.
Madeleine, people go to vets because it’s what they are taught and unfortunately led to believe is in the best interest of their pet. Something has to trigger in a person that the system is not working and they start on the path of discovery. Pegg, I thought the same thing! Is poor Mrs. Z sees her dog getting sick after vet visits and puts 2 + 2 together, why go back? Is she being forced to? Ugh. I would have told the vet exactly where she could put her needles and poison. I guess I would not be described as a timid person. (:
Mrs. Z is like most people. People have implicit trust in their veterinarian to do only what is helpful to their pets. The vets themselves *believe* what they’re doing IS helpful. Some of us eventually come to realize some of the treatments we’ve been told are beneficial and not harmful are exactly the opposite.
Mrs. Z is at the beginning of discovering a different way of looking at things. She has probably just started putting 2 and 2 together when it comes to her dog’s reactions. I was once where she was, and I bet most of you were, too.
No one should put blind trust in any service provider, but it is a shame we have to be so skeptical of certain professions where they should not be trusted until they prove themselves. It’s a problem with the schools and the laws put down by states. I’m much more nervous about my legal liabilities practicing holistic medicine than conventional medicine!
Words of wisdom, Tabitha. It’s a path, and everyone starts out knowing nothing but what they believed from earlier times. Following that path into full daylight can be a bit blinding at first, and scary. It’s bright, dazzling even, but also unfamiliar.
The smart ones take it a step at a time, trying the new path on for size. Animals are perhaps the most helpful ones of all to verify that we’ve taken a good turn. They are simple. When we give good inputs and stop the damaging ones, they shine. Irrefutably. They encourage us to step out further, trusting that health really is inherent in us all. It just needs to be cultured, encouraged, and not impaired through blindly following instructions that may have no basis in the real world.
Same with you as a vet taking this new path. Your nervousness will become a distant memory when you see how much good you achieve for each and every patient you treat this way.
I think we can all identify with Mrs. Z. The question just becomes, how quickly will we move on?
Having recently adopted a pure bred puppy, we took him to the vet for the breeder-mandated well puppy visit. This is a relatively new vet that helped us put down our 20 year old Pomeranian at the beginning of the year so we felt positive about him. But I was on alert to see how the vet would react to my strong opinions about vaccinations and the vacs schedule. Sure enough, he wasn’t interested in anything I had to say because, after all, I am not a trained professional like he is (BA, MA, and post-grad work don’t count). He gave my pup a lick and a promise instead of the comprehensive work-over I requested and then sent in his tech to try to sell me the drugs. I put them off, went home and located a holistic vet in the next town. Yes, I have to drive 50 miles, but she listens, gave the pup a thorough work-up and agrees with me. It is worth it.
Good for you, Karen. Voting with your pocketbook, even if it means extra driving, will bear good fruit long term.
The bottom line to this whole thing is two things. If you don’t feel your vet is doing the right thing find a new vet. I don’t care if it’s further costlier or any thing else that makes it inconvenient. If you don’t shame on you.
With the internet available to virtually every one there is no excuse for not typing in a search over vaccination of pets. You must be your pets advocate as if it was a child.
How about a vet giving a friends 17 yr old Chihuahua distemper and parvo vaccine !!!!
Agreed, Martin. That’s what I’m here to help with: educating pet owners so they know where to “call the shots” and when to cut and run.
No excuse for vaccinating a 17 yr old for two diseases it’s likely immune to! All risk, no benefit.
Sir, I live in a small town in Kansas and I have suspicion,that my dog is being sexualy abused? But in such a way that everyone around me Sais I am crazy? However,that person is my boyfriend and I am not sure if he couldn’t b a suspect?
Or one of his friends? In all of it , I feel like it is too hert me? But I need to know for sure? She s 2and was spaded right away,b4her first heat? So I hope that will help in figuring out if she’s being abused sexualy?(
Please take your dog to a vet to find out if she is being abused. I am wondering what signs you are seeing to come to this conclusion. You need to leave your boyfriend if this is true. You have to protect your dog. If you don’t your boyfriend or his friend who is committing this crime will probably end up killing your dog. This is a very disturbed person
aww, guess you’ve never heard of parvo or distemper. both viruses that vaccines have been PREVENTING for YEARS!!! the most common animal to get parvo?? an UNVACCINATED PUPPY.
I’m sorry I just don’t agree with this article as it completely downgrades our profession and the education behind our degrees, it also allows innocent clients like yourself to believe bullshit. ya know they never proved ANYTHING that vaccines were in any way related to Autism, so jenny mccarthy can eat that one.
signed – a responsible vet.
If we disregard the lack of attention to proper grammar and punctuation, as well as the foul language in your comment, it still rings an unproffessional sounding bell.
I agree with you. This vet (if she really is one) is wrong. Vaccines definitely cause so many health problems in animals and humans.
Really??? You sound like a very uneducated stupid troll! Go find another site to troll on-you’ve been outed!
You sound really responsible. Geesh.
In response to Brooke, signed- “a responsible vet” I have chosen not to vaccinate my puppy and he is thriving! I choose to build his immune system internally with good, clean raw eating and natural preventatives. It wasn’t always that way. As a puppy he fed off his mother’s milk who was vaccinated while pregnant…pretty sure that is a No No in the vet world. Needless to say all the puppies were born with itchy skin and no fleas. My niece who rescued this mother with pups was doing as advised by her vet. The pups were adopted out to her neighbors and she kept one pup and I kept one. She was told by all the new owners the pups are constantly itching with no fleas. The vet told her that it is an Oak allergy. But logic tells me otherwise. There were not oak trees even remotely close to all 8 pups and they had this problem very early on as observed by my niece. Now months later while I am feeding raw and no vaccines my pup is very healthy looking, shiny soft coat, bright eyes. The itching has stopped. My niece brought over her pup for a play date with his brother and wow what a difference. She feeds him with preservative foods (junk basically) and vaccinates him. They look like they are from different mothers. Her pups hair is coarse, dull and dry looking. He is so much larger too which makes me think the hormones in the food is fattening him up…same reason our kids in America are obese. GMO’s, hormone injected meats and preservatives are killing us all and this includes our pets! Only time will tell…I will keep you posted on the health of my baby! One last comment. It is very expensive to care for my puppy but he is worth it! And the money I spend now for his healthy life style will save me later on operations and chemo treatments or hospital stays. He’s my baby and I spoil him with the best!
Hey Responsible Vet,
I take it you have not watched the movie Vaxxed then? If you really want to be responsible and do your due diligence, you must watch this movie. Whether you realize it or not, the reality is the MMR vaccine did cause serious autism in these children who were vaccinated with it.
The details in this movie reveal just exactly what went on within the CDC, (HUGE cover up) and it’s mighty ugly. Tell a parent whose child suffers from autism, and whose child was completely healthy and fine the day before the shot, that autism wasn’t caused by this vaccine and you’ll get thousands of angry parents who beg to differ.
Please get informed before making comments that are indeed lacking in care and facts.
Here’s some reading for you;
and the movie, it is free, no excuse not to watch;
Brooke, Often times the parvo vaccine gives parvo, plus it spreads live germs for others to become exposed. recently vaxxed dogs spread it to their neighbors on their arrival home.