What if the “medicine” you were given to get rid of fleas, ticks, and heartworms in your dog turned out to be toxic and was causing poor Sadie’s liver, kidneys, and skin to go into overdrive, trying to keep that poison from bringing her to her knees?
Not a pretty picture, but there continue to be many reports of deaths and illness coming in from owners after the use of this drug called Trifexis.
What is Trifexis?
Made by Elanco (a division of Eli Lilly and Company, the global pharmaceutical manufacturer with sales in the billions), the drug is a combination of two drugs found in other products:
1. Spinosad, a pesticide sourced in the United States, the main ingredient in Comfortis, the flea killer, and
2. Milbemycin, a pesticide sourced in China (per Dr. Connell, the vet on staff at Elanco), and the main ingredient in Interceptor, the heartworm larvae killer.
Here’s a map of Lilly’s plants around the world:
If you live in Canada, the UK, or Australia, your version of Trifexis is called Panoramis. And, if the name Trifexis scares you, you can get the very same product now under the name Comboguard.
What’s Happening to Real Dogs after Taking Trifexis?
Of course the whole idea of giving pesticides to animals is a bad idea, right? How could they possibly make an animal healthier? Well, some folks missed the memo apparently, as Elanco has sold well over 50 million doses as of November 2013.
Update: According the Indy Star’s report on veterinary pharmaceuticals (and how wildly unregulated that whole world is), the company said they’ve sold over 70 million doses. And that’s 2013 data. How many more have been sold since then?
Some of the most striking conversation is taking place on the AVMA (American Veterinary Medical Association) website itself (this page has been taken down, sorry), though there is a a special Facebook page with lots of concerned pet owners who have lost animals or had animals sickened after taking Trifexis. In addition, Atlanta station WSB-TV has a couple of stories from late 2013 on problems post-Trifexis, including deaths, and Elanco’s response (“the drug is innocent, no correlation”).
Reports from real people with experience from their own animals include:
- Failure of the product to rid hook worms (part of its label claims).
- Refusal of the subsequent doses by dogs who got ill on the first dose.
- Blindness immediately post-Trifexis dose, from detached retinas.
- Death. (By some counts in November 2013, some 700 dogs were alleged to have died from ingesting Trifexis.)
- A vet who’s seen harm first hand in his patients, reported it to Elanco, and pulled the product from his shelves.
- Vomiting, a very common side effect by the number of reports.
- Pancreatitis.
- “Fly biting,” an air snapping behavior common in epileptic dogs.
- Seizures.
- Confusion, restless wandering.
- Weakness in rear limbs; paralysis.
- Heart disease.
- Lethargy.
- Hypersensitivity, acting as if suddenly bitten. Touchy.
What’s striking in all these many, many reports is that, while some of them came on after the first dose (including deaths), many came on after months of use or even a year.
How to Recognize the B.S. : Six Ways
Elanco, and the AVMA right along with them, are spinning the story that tries to tell all these people that their animals who either died or got paralyzed or went blind right after taking Trifexis have no reason to blame the drug. This is largely based on necropsies (think autopsies on animals) reviewed by an “independent pathologist.” That’s a very good place to start.
The “independent” veterinary pathologist is Jeffery Engelhardt. He was hired by Elanco to review necropsy reports on three Visla pups who died within days of ingesting Trifexis. This man has a prior history of working for Eli Lilly, the parent company, for over 20 years.
Interestingly, there were seven pups in this litter. The three that got Trifexis all died, while the four who didn’t never even got sick.
Are you raising your eyebrows yet?
So, we have
- B.S. Point One: The “proof” was provided by someone with ties to the manufacturer reviewing the work of other pathologists.
- B.S. Point Two: Study samples to get a new drug labeled are by necessity small. Their findings (no deaths) don’t negate what hundreds or thousands of pet owners are seeing in their dogs (illness and death).
- B.S. Point Three: A necropsy on three dogs showing heart disease does not let the drug off the hook as the cause. A vet contacted at Elanco admits as much.
- B.S. Point Four: Necropsy results of a poisoned animal are “non-specific.” In other words, they could be anything. Organ failure would rank high but there’s no way to see a “footprint” of Trifexis poisoning, and, absent that, say it was not to blame. There’s an old saying, “You can’t prove a negative.”
- B.S. Point Five: Poisoning (with anything) is most often the presumed diagnosis based on history of ingestion and symptoms showing up as a result. Pathology could vary widely. So, somewhat like #4, necropsy findings alone cannot be used as a defense in a poisoning case.
- B.S. Point Six: Elanco set out to look for another cause of death. An Elanco vet is quoted as saying,
What we look for are underlying causes, pre-existing conditions – any other indication that the dog had any other reason for dying.”
So, the very starting point in interpreting the necropsies, as you can well imagine, is biased. They sell this drug, they would rather not incriminate it as the cause of illness or death. They’d rather avoid the cost of pulling it off the market and reimbursing the likely thousands of people who would make claims against them.
So, What to Do?
The clear take away from all of this is simple. You need to be a smart consumer. Keep your ear to the ground, and if you hear hoof beats, and you don’t live in Africa, expect they were made by a horse, not a zebra.
Just as you’ll never convince a mother who lost a child to vaccine induced autism by telling her there’s no conclusive proof, neither will you be able to dissuade thousands of animal owners who’ve seen illness or death after giving a drug, that the drug was not responsible.
You need to raise Vital Animals, who can withstand the vagaries of life, and you won’t get there by using pesticides to kill fleas, worms or heartworms.
Why?
Pesticides are poisons.
For a drug-free alternative that’s been working to prevent HW safely for over 20 years, click here.
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THANK YOU so much for this! My dog is supposed to take this once a month (and the dosage is for dogs 20-40 lbs. (my dog is 25 lbs and now I wonder if that means he’s getting even more than he should since he’s 15 lbs less than 40).
He’s been taking it for a year and hasn’t thrown up yet. But he detests it. He’s also a very anxious dog. More so than any other dog I’ve known. He’s always on high alert and constantly moving. He’s not big on being touched. This might explain it.
My husband takes him to a well-known pet store, with their own vet, as that’s where his parents took their old dog (and they liked that veterinarian). They used to have a Cavalier King Charles (in the same family as Cocker Spaniels) and somewhere around 9 or 10 years old, he started losing his vision and became confused a lot. I believe, towards the end of his life at 11, he was having seizures as well. I’m pretty sure he was taking the same medication since he went to the same vet.
This sheds A LOT of information on everything. I’d be willing to bet that the vets do this to make more money for themselves. How sad.
As for my own experiences- I’ve never taken that drug but I’ve taken something similar when I had a bacterial infection a few years ago. My Dr gave me Metronidazole which is not only used for bacterial infections but it can treat parasites as well. Even though they aren’t the same drug, Trifexis and Metro both kill parasites. I can say, from experience, that Metro is a HORRENDOUS medication. I’ve never taken something that made me feel so sick. It made me weak, tired, nauseous and gave me headaches. There were a few times at work that I had to hold on to a counter because I was dizzy that I felt like falling over. That drug is considered to be carcinogenic (cancer causing). I’d be willing to bet that Trifexis is too. Its basically squashing everything out of your stomach. That can’t be a good thing to do 12 times a year for life. This is terrible!
Thank you for your wonderful information! I wish more ppl knew about this.
To all those who argued that big Pharma and the FDA removes harmful medications from the shelves here is a perfect example why they do not:
If aspirin was just discovered today you would need to have a prescription due to the side effects. Since aspirin has been used for over 200 years they will not remove it from the shelves.
Many children have died due to complications while infected with Chicken Pox….aspirin for their fever caused multiple deaths (Reye’s syndrome) Now it is listed on the box or drug information not to use for reducing fever if a child has chicken pox.
There are other numerous reactions due to aspirin there is a long list, but this one should raise a question of why this medication should be by prescription only: “during pregnancy may have adverse effects in the fetus. It should be used during pregnancy only when the benefits outweigh the risks. Aspirin is excreted into breast milk and may cause adverse effects in the infant. Consult your doctor before breastfeeding.” https://www.rxlist.com/aspirin-side-effects-drug-center.htm (this link shows other side effects on this drug.
When the first heart wormer became available the medication had adverse affects on certain breeds such as collies. Thus, having a mixed breed dog with collie bloodlines may or may not result in an adverse reaction to the drug; thus the dog owner should have a frank discussion with their veterinarian regarding the risk potential.
SPOT ON! This is why Drs always recommend Tylenol over any other pain killer. None of them are technically safe if you use them too much, but Tylenol is considered the safest. Also- Aspirin isn’t meant for children at all.
One last point (which is a BIG one)- is it’s link with the Spanish flu of 1918. It’s been documented that many ppl who were sick, took Aspirin and died. Aspirin may have caused their death due to it being a blood thinner (which affects your bodies blood-clotting ability). After the 1918 ‘flu’, ppl were considering suing Bayer over these Aspirin-related deaths. But somehow the lawsuits disappeared and everything was forgotten about. This shows EXACTLY how much Big Pharma is protected and should be considered unethical!
This is why a lot of ppl don’t know what to make of the pandemic we have right now (that started late 2019). We are repeating the same mistakes again and no one knows what works and what doesn’t. It’s all a guessing game at the expense of ppl’s lives.
My beagle has been taking Trifexis since 2013 so she would have been 5 at the time. Now she’s a healthy and still very active 12 year old. The question you need to ask yourself is if my dog is an outlier or the norm.
This entire article is a bunch of bs. Very similar to vaccinations cause autism in kids. Certainly your right to believe a Facebook page. We all know how reliable that is.
I like your site, well written, nice format. Only thing that has me wondering is if this is all true why are you charging so much for a .pdf, the Heartworm Prevention Guide, over $50 for access to your .pdf? I don’t disbelieve you just it makes me wonder when you are grossly profiting from your view points. I guess we all need to make a living so it’s understandible. But I’d be more confident in what you were saying if your guide was more reasonably priced. Frankly, if it was me and I care deeply for animals, I’d be giving that guide away for free to everyone, and shouting about it from the rooftops. Lets see if you publish my comment. And no I don’t work for Eli Lilly or something, I’m a retired environmental scientist.
Hi Richard,
I’m in business and have expenses like anyone else who is. It takes dollars to keep a site running, pay my staff, and invest in the innumerable pieces of tech that I use. You always have the option to consume a ton of free information here on the site and you have the option to buy products from me. 100% your choice.
My bichon died in 2014 after Trifexis. I wish I’d never given it to her! She started having seizures and the vet said brain lesions. She had been very healthy prior to taking Trifexis. After she died I started hearing of the other dog deaths. I miss my sweet baby.
So my dogs been on Trifexis for about 2 yrs now. She has had some of the side affects mentioned in the comments so I’m taking her off of the medication. It didn’t help her flea problems anyway because she continued to itch even after I gave her a dose of Trifexis. So my question is…. what is a safe alternative for treatment of fleas? We live in Texas so the flea problems are ridiculous. I also want to protect her from other parasites including heart worms. She lives inside full time with the exception of potty breaks outside of course.
Thanks for sharing,
Rusty
Rusty: flea control without poisons: http://vitalanimal.com/non-toxic-flea-control/
Very interesting article. Even though I live in Southern CA my latest dogs have never had fleas not one time. Yet when the dogs went for their annual checks we were offered many of these kinds of products and all these toxic substances never made sense to me. My dogs are 9 and I just recently lost Desy. In the late 90’s I did use some topical flea products but that was before I learned about big pharma, our food, water etc. I research a lot of things and I have tried to be the guardian of my Maltese dogs as they are vulnerable to the greedy stupid actions of humans. I personally haven’t been to an MD in 10 years and I am done with vetrinarians. They poison your pets and you are left blaming yourself for their illness or death. They all have this little cliche thing on their bills about how they understand your pet is like family. That is a lot like the IRS apologizing for any inconvenience you may have experienced.
Hi
I have a 12 almost 13 year old pug that I started on Trifexis 7 years ago. I didn[‘t put the two together but about a week into it he was spinning in circles,loss of appetite, etc. My vet assured me it could NOT be the Trifexis since her animals are on it and she has had no problems. Well, I took him (pug) off the Trifexis after about 6 months and also…. the spinning stopped. The appetite came back, his labs were better…..
I cannot prove it but my gut told me that the Trifexis was a problem. We live in Texas so the fleas/mosquitos are horrific. Ya’ll are not crazy. I know two folks whose elderly dogs both died after being given TRIFEXIS. …………………. Again the vet said it was a coincidence. REALLY???????
My pug also has not had anymore seizures since I stopped the Trifexis and he is no longer on Valium for them.
I realize this is not concrete proof but sure does make me wonder if the Trifexis is safe???
Thanks.
My 17 year old chihuahua has been taking Trifexis for 5 years. That is about the time she developed deafness and lameness in her back end and I thought it was a sign of old age. After her last dose on 11/5 she has had 6 seizures and developed pancreatitis. Of course the dr’s say it is unrelated and offer no help. They just say she’s getting older and they want to give her more drugs. Also her lameness in her back end, confusion and restlessness are getting worse. I of course have discontinued use of that poison. How do I help her with her seizures and other symptoms?!?! HELP!!!!
So .o only came on to find out if it were safe to give my dog comforting plus. He was recently diagnosed with pancreatitis. I have learned so much. He has been taking comforting for years . But the comforting plus only about a year now. All his organs are normal not likeany dogs with pancreatitis. The vet was surprised at this. Any advise on a safe flea heart worm med for dogs with pancreatitis ?
Absolutely: safe flea control & safe HW prevention that works w/o drugs.
vaccine induced autism, really, so now all on the anti vaccination wagon too just because a few more kids are coming out on the spectrum, certainly nothing to do with all the garbage in human foods these days…..let’s blame the vaccinations that have been fine for however many years hmmm
Preach, Jack, preach! Statements such as those in the article are both harmful and ignorant. As an autistic mama with an autistic son, I’m appalled by the comments.
Hi, I live SW Florida and feed my German Shepherd raw food. I was told by my vet that there are so many cases of Heartworm Disease in this area. He basically begged me to give him at least regular Heartgard every 45 days. But isn’t getting his blood checked 3 or 4 times a year a better approach? Thank you.
Ellen S.
My 3 dogs received comfortis plus last month. It is now time for another dose but not from me. My 2 dogs had bloody stool for 2days and my 12 year old had BLACK watery stool for 4 days, and throwing up blood clots. Took her to the vet and they said she had very low red blood platelets, severely dehydrated & had to be given 7 different meds ( antibiotics) anti clotting agent & special foods. They said she had 7 – 10 days to live. I thank GOD we caught it in time. The vet says no it wasnt the flea meds but why did my 2 dogs have the same symptoms? I blame it on the flea meds because it happened the day after she took it. From now on I will be using a natural flea meds from our local feed store. …….NO MORE PESTICIDES IN MY DOGS( family)
So what do you give them to prevent heart worms then?
I would like to know a straight answer than having to read a book.
I have an Aussie that will be 2 in May, she was treated once with revolution when she was a year before I knew, haven’t done heart worm since, nor distemper as she tested immune did the dog park for Pavo but haven’t retested yet.
Thanks
Hi Dr,
My dog was just diagnosed with whipworm, she’s 2 years old. The vet suggests interceptor plus but is there a natural way I can treat her?
I just had a conversation with my vet about Trifexis. She had prescribed it for my 10 month old mini Dachshund(10 pounds) and told me over the phone about the side effect of vomiting. I was in the car, she was busy and I didn’t ask questions at that point, but something made me feel very uncomfortable at the moment about giving this to my Cooper. SO….I did a little research before giving him the medicine…and I did not like what I read. I have not given this to him and today I called her to discuss it with her and felt very cut short. She basically told me that I was ignorant (I know she meant no insult) when it came to side effects and after she talked on for awhile I finally interrupted her and said that I should have not said side effects but long-term effects. I told her what I had read to which she said everyone has an opinion. She did not have an answer for the death rate. I don’t even know if she is aware of it. I asked her about alternatives and she said the only alternative to treatment for fleas, ticks and heartworms was to keep Cooper in a bubble. We take him lots and lots of places. He is a very social dog.
I felt cut off and unheard. I would prefer a holistic vet, but there is none in my area. I have tried to read about alternatives, but do not feel educated enough and confident enough in the products that I read about to feel I am keeping my dog safe.
Another issue is that this vet is a member of the church where my husband pastors and I am Children’s Ministry Leader and take care of her children. She is young. Recently graduated. BigPharma educated. About 4 years in practice.
What do I do?
My neighbor said her dog got sick from Comfortis but I’ve had my two on Trifexis for at least a couple of years and have seen none of the symptoms described above. Is it possible that some dogs tolerate it well and others do not? If I’ve had no problem in all the time I’ve been giving it to them, should I still worry that something terrible might happen in the future?
I’m sure it’s possible many tolerate it, Ben. Just like the alcoholic smoker who makes it to 90 years old, we all have different levels of reactivity. I’d be concerned to continue use though, certainly. Pesticides don’t make one more healthy, right?
My Vet gave our new puppy her first free dose and after this one I am no longer going to allow her to give her anymore of this medicine. I am so scared at this point and going to monitor my dog. This is very concerning and I hope im fortunate that I decided to read reviews, unfortunately she already had her first dose and I was planning on purchasing more but nevermind.
Hey Brandon,
If this just recently happened, if you want to be proactive, preventing potential illness, grab my Homeopathic Detox Report. Cheap insurance.
I applaud your decision not to bite the hook that would have you keep buying this stuff. Eesh.
Sammy is Gone!!! He’s been a guinea pig for Trifexis. We have been giving him this toxic poison for over 5 years to treat ticks and fleas, after it was recommended by the humane Society. We did read the side effects, but nothing was mentioned about about paralysis. We started him on this poison when he was about 2 years old. There were periods of vomiting. During his first year of being on Trifexis, he was constantly thirsty, always drinking water. He started to suck on his tongue, and he became fatigue. He would gnaw on his paw. The tongue sucking never went away. He became paralyzed. It happened rapidly. We noticed him missing a step when walking about a month before he became completely paralyzed. We took him to the animal hospital, hoping that the vet would recognize the symptoms, but instead was hit with all types of recommendations for testing which would have resulted in thousands of dollars and no guarantee. In fact, the vet did not even acknowledge our statement about Trifexis.
Hi Ray,
I’m so sorry you lost Sammie. Drugs that poison by way of paralysis of the pest (which all the HW “preventatives” I’ve studied do) won’t surprise us when we see nervous system symptoms in our beloved animals.
Those could be mild, like tics and tremors, to severe, like seizures or paralysis. And, as Sammie showed us, the interval of when the side effects show up can vary all over the map. Some right away, even some deaths after the first dose.
Sammie held out for 5 years (strong, vital animal!) until he no longer could. I’m so sorry for your loss. And hope Sammie can inspire you and many others to think differently about truly protecting our animals from pests. The key is how we choose to do that.
I wish I had been more informed about trifexis last fall – my daughter was watching my two puppies (9 & 10 months) while I was going through some health issues, the vet recommended trifexis because they had such thick coats (Chow Chows) – they were both dead within hours of taking it – (I have a new puppy due in June/July and will not make the same mistake again-and am looking for a new vet!!). You can be sure I am reading every email you send
I gave my Yorkie his Trifexis at 4:30 this afternoon, he woke me up at 2:00 trembling and holding his head back and wanting me to hold him. I took him outside and he was acting really anxious, kept licking my face. So I gave him a Benadryl. It is 3:15 and he has settled down! I have 3 Chiweenies I give this to also! I am afraid to give Trifexis to them now! I will stay up to watch my baby! What to do about this? Stop all this poison that are hurting our babies? They have no fleas or heart worms ! They love to dig in the dirt!
I was right with you. The entire way. Then you mentioned something anti-vacc, and immediately it made me want to just disregard everything you said. I know for a fact flea medications for pets are dangerous and most likely lethal – I will not put that crap on my pets, even though they are itchy and miserable, because I’m not cruel- but the problem is you are discrediting the entire argument against the pesticides by saying something that has no basis in reality at the end. That harms everyone, because I know a lot of people who would feel just like I did, and probably disregard everything you said based on that one statement.
It’s rather disconcerting, the amount of evidence there is & scientific proof about vaccinations, while there is virtually no unbiased data or evidence that flea/tick meds are indeed safe, and there is a fairly immediate reaction in most cases to the medication. Everything I’ve read leads to the conclusion they are unsafe, and the fact that one of the chemicals in this Trifexis is sourced from China is the biggest red flag you could ever have. There are virtually no regulations there about anything, and even the ones that do exist, are practically never enforced. They don’t give a crap about animals, obviously. Why a company sources an ingredient from a country that makes it illegal to sell cosmetics & medicines without rigorous animal testing, to use in a medication for animals, is beyond me. The only reason that makes any sense is the company is a sham, all about profit & should be shut down immediately, because they are purposely poisoning pets for profit.
Try to leave the anti-vaccination crap out of an article that has absolutely nothing to do with it. More people will be willing to listen & use this important information to them. We need to not focus on other things while informing them, keep it about the animals. Inserting nonsense (whether you agree it is nonsense or not) that is widely not accepted by those in the medical or scientific community, and has a clear bias, when it has no place here, is just damaging to your site, your mission, & the education you are trying to share with people.
If you are unaware, John Mercola is a fraud, and at the forefront of the anti-vacc nonsense. Look it up. He is just profiting off of people’s fear & lives in a multi-million dollar home from it. He tells you things are terrible, but for the “low” price
of 5x more, you can totally buy something that is much safer, directly from him! Give me a break.
He has been told multiple times by government authorities to stop spreading propaganda & lies, particularly under the guise of being a doctor, and peddling his products. This guy is worse than any evil company selling poison, believe me. He makes you trust him with his fear-mongering nonsense, and uses it to take advantage of you! He pretends to be the alternative solution! I’ll take science-backed, rigorously tested, peer-reviewed information any day over the obvious pandering, fear-mongering, fake doctor telling me to buy his products…
People need to use their heads, instead of letting emotions control their decisions like this. These fake doctors rely on people only depending on emotion & feeling. It’s how they make bank. Frankly it should be illegal, punishable by several years in jail. Even that wouldn’t be enough for these criminals.
By saying that at the end, you just made it a lot harder to fight the battle against these companies poisoning our pets…. 🙁
I just have to give you this link to a recent youtube video of a vet before the courts with information about vaccinations that I think you might find interesting. Thank you for your time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc6E8eqXyOk
That comment is directed towards Bob the Builder. I apologize for not posting that properly.
I am a sociologist and an owner of two dogs who are on Trifexis. The original post by the DVM is wroth with inflammatory remarks meant to induce the masses into irrational decisions. 1st he uses DOSES sold. The boxes contains 6 pills. So take his “dose” estimate and divide it by 6 which will give you a better, statistically accurate, approximation. I’ll touch on some of the bullet points that I feel are inflammatory.
1. “failure to get rid of hook worms”…. I thought you were posting that the product is a pesticide…how does pointing out that it doesn’t kill hook worms (which are some of the easiest internal parasites to kill) advance your argument?
2. Refusal after first dose.. Neither my Maltese or my Doberman have EVER just
“taken” meds, I always have to do things the old way (open mouth, put pill in mouth, then hold head up rub neck, then blow in their nose and hold till they swallow.
4. The fact that you even wrote the word “alleged” means that even you know there may or may not be any connection.
5. “A vet”… No source? No way we can verify? This is a logical fallacy at best.
6. Vomiting I was told by my vet the first time I bought Trifexis that they need to take it with food. The first dose I gave (immediately after eating) DID make my Maltese vomit. Now I feed the dogs, wait about 45 minutes, then give the pill. Haven’t had an issue since…..
7-14. Can ALL be symptoms of hundreds of underlying conditions!!!!! One of the BIG ones being improper nutrition! *** People, think a minute before you by the “good” food with veggies for added nutrition… Dogs DO NOT need vegetables!! They are OBLICATE CARNIVORES!!!! In fact, since their bodies do not quite know what do with vegetables, they may activate food allergies!!!!! Food allergies, as we know, are critical, front of the mind conditions, when a human has them. Why would they not be as critical if your dog has them. There are some bad pet parents that spend the very minimum money on there dog as possible. For example, in my state, the only test a dog has to pass to get a Trifexis, is a negative heartworm panel…..Another thing is all of the line breeding done in the 60s and 70s. The Backyard breeders that continue to pollute the bloodlines of our AKC dogs. A MALTIPOO WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED BY AKC! IN FACT, all it is, is A MUTT! Some breeds have been so wrecked that they are have malformations and underlying (silent killers) when they are born.
The biggest problem I have seen with Trifexis is that the fleas are building an immunity to, as they do with all…”treatments”. Remember the original versions of Frontline and Advantage….
Just to add I live in a HIGH flea area.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Seriously.
My dog was prescribed trifexis a week ago. He has been taking triheart with no problems but the vet insisted that trifexis is better.
When I told the vet that my dog has health issues along with episodes of vomiting and seizures, he again reassured me that trifexis is safe but I could cut the pills in half to lessen the chance of vomiting.
When I mentioned to my groomer of the change in medication she told me NOT to give it to my dog. She cited numerous deaths attributed to this drug and it is not recommended for breeding dogs. She has been the groomer for my little guy for over seven years and I trust her implicitly.
We went to our vet and got Leo on triheart and he has no reaction to this medication. I contacted trifexis and they said the medication is safe and refused to even discuss the amount of money I spent on something I now refuse to give my dog.
Not only am I disgusted with this company and their non-concern for the well-being of our fur babies, but their company line makes you wonder how many animals have been harmed by their lack of concern.
My puppy is 8-weeks old today. My previous Dobie, was on Trifexis. Yes, I didn’t experience any issues with his health, etc. However, I traveled to Colombia to visit my father and asked around for Trifexis. All the vets advised they did not carry this product because of the repercussions. Now, I’m curious – What should I give my baby for heartworm, fleas, and other worms? Are there any suggestions?
Hey Stephanie,
A great sign that we are a world wide community, caring about our animals!
Here’s what’s been working for decades to keep heartworms out w/o poisoning: my Drug Free Heartworm Prevention.
Ditto for fleas: Non-Toxic Flea Control
Other worms have never been an issue in my patients, and I think that starts with good food.
You’re at the cusp of a new life, so those wise decisions you make now will have long term good consequences for your new pup.
Trifexis tablets eventually lead to the death of my perfectly healthy 96lb black labrador retriever who suffered a seizure 7 days shy of his 9th birthday and having had his last Trifexis dose 24 hours prior to his death.
1 hour after consuming on that fateful morning, he threw up all of his breakfast and a semi-digested Trifexis tablet.
I have video evidence time-stamped to support this.
Trifexis kills dogs.
Check the MSDS reports on Spinosad the active ingredient in this medication.
it is not flattering.
This medication should be removed immediately by the FDA from all veterinarians’ offices and clinics statewide. They do not sell this in UK or AUS or CAN. Many other countries have outright banned this stuff.
I gave my dog Trifexis this summer twice and he got very sick so I stopped. His health deteriorated after that and I took him to the vet, who said he he so many illnesses reported and pancreatitis that he stopped carrying it! And now guess what? My dog has pancreatitis! Please do not use this medication!!! I’ve never seen such adverse effects in my many years of owning pets. The company should be held accountable for not testing this properly.
I concur Cody. I’ve been rescuing/adopting and treating all kinds of dogs – but mostly large and giants as they are harder to find homes for – for decades (no I shall not divulge my age hahaha) I’ve been using products such as Program and an ivermectin/pyrantel med for heart worms since 1985 (when I graduated from med school … people med, bc I love animals more!) and was able to have dogs in my own home. I’d used the same vet from ’89 until his recent death in 2015, and he was always amazed at the longevity of all of my large breeds! egs. Gr Dane lived to 13 yrs, Newfie to 14, etc. Maybe it’s luck/good karma/love I don’t know, but I have had no reactions to any flea/heartworm meds (including Trifexis) – that would be in 21 dogs. When I was in med school and the pharmaceuticals were cost prohibitive I did use garlic etc. but I did not know of a heart worm substitute.
Now I do continue to use meds for fleas and heartworm, but I am SO sad that these kind dog lovers and owners have had such tragic events! I wish I could figure out what I am … I guess, what I’m doing right … and/or send my good fortune to you all!
And to those people who have not experienced any untoward effects – that’s awesome! As an MD I do use medications, however if someone shows me an alternative therapy that works, I’m all ears!
Thanks!
Vanessa
Any alternatives to this medication? Natural alternatives just don’t work and other meds make her sick that is why we have her on Trifexis!
I can only go by my experiences. Ilived in a house with multiple dogs for a while. my expire had several my daughter had several. I have a Silky terrier. For the first three years I had him,( i rescued him from a local shelter at around 4 years old) he constantly itched to the point of rubbing himself raw. going to my vet and getting “Comforttis” with no results.,every medicated shampoo as well as following an all natural protocol including vinega,r salt baths, garlic, grain free food, all to no avail. I finally moved out with my dog so I could control the fleas. His issues continued. I went to a new vet. who gave my little guy some antiboitics and steriods and “COMBOGAURD” since that treatment no more scratching no more raw skin no more sour smell from his coat. its been 4 years now and he’s still healthy and active at 11!! i don’t ever miss a dose. I think the problem is just like medications we are learning there are genitic components to a medictions worth andpossible side effects, that even in human is just starting to be understood.
Tomorrow I will say goodbye to my Dane Isaac. He is a second generation Dane of mine and the last of his family, so to say that this is painful is an understatement. July of 2015 he had his yearly check up and was heartworm negative, and I made the decision to switch to Trifexis. The only side effects he had was an upset tummy with each dose, which could be negated with food. He never missed a dose. July of 2016 he had his yearly check up, and he was heartworm positive. He began immediate treatment. 3 months into treatment, he was diagnosed with a tumor in his abdomen that had caused his stomach and intestines to shift. It was also discovered at that time that his heart had tripled in size, decreasing his lung capacity to only 1/4 of what it should have been. The heart damage was caused by the worms and because of this damage, he could not tolerate surgery to remove the tumor. He is 6 years old. He makes the third dog this year in my area of Athens Georgia to contract heartworms, despite being on Trifexis. Please stop giving your dogs this medication and pray the FDA will take away their approval before more dogs and people have to suffer.
Ok so last year my 4 year old rottie got, hot spots bit only in the summer.. now for 2 years prior.
All 4 of my rotties are on advantix..
Only chevy has getton these..
Last year , again no fleas bit hotspots.
Course of treatment presezone. Ok all goof after summer.
THIS YEAR ITS BAD.
Yet i flea shampoo him as well and i see nada.
Than in my bedroom, he is the only house dog, i get bit by a flea..
Than i think he is allergic to the flea bitea.
He is biting like mad. I have tried all the natural shit and it wont work.
I use a collar to atop him chewing up his back side and legs.
He hasnt eaten for 2 days and looks miserable
Finally i went and asked for a good flea med .
They gave me this stuff.
One day after he ate a little bit still scratching and bitting a bit day 2 he is eating and slightly nibbling.. day 3 he is eating on hi regular routine and is his happy self again.. so far so good. We are at day 4.
I know all my rotties as i have bred them for years..this is my first with a dog sooo alergic to flea bitea.. drastic meds have been used.. lets see how this holds up
Give your dog Trifexis!
Yes, it is expensive. Yes, it is chemical. Yes, it might harm your dog (is a very, very small percentage of the cases).
Or … you can give your dog a few spoons of Guinness beer a month – it must be the one made is Ireland! Lol.
There are people who believe pumpkin seeds can cure cancer. And there are people who believe pray can save lives. This is called “mysticism”. There is no proof of it, just faith.
I won’t hold you right or wrong any way you choose to go. Just different.
A few decades ago, when dogs were not used for companion as they are today, they had a much better life. They would die more often, true. But they had more freedom as well.
One fact is immutable: your dog will eventually die. This is inevitable. And when he/she is gone, an empty hole will be formed in your heart. There is nothing to heal this.
Good luck in your endeavors!
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I just got my Schnoodle Chihuahua a couple weeks ago, and I just brought him into the vet the other day where the vet gave me a free first dose of Trifexis to give him. I haven’t given it to him yet and after everything that I’ve seen online I don’t think I will. There’s got to be a safer way to protect my dog from heart worm than putting poisons into his little 5 pound body.
Oh, good catch, Rosie. I’m so glad you found your way to a thoughtful decision. I can’t tell you how many just give the pesticide, never thinking.
“It’s free? Dr.WhiteCoat gave it to me? Great!”
You evaluated first. Decided poisons were not the way you wanted to treat a loved one. Bravo!
OMG! I give Trifexis to my 2 dogs, I haven’t give them their pills this months yet, and after reading this I’m not giving it anymore! ( they been on it a year) no problems yet but don’t want to to take a chance with it! my vet put them on it because of round worm’s we have them in the ground where I live at and they almost killed my Akita, now to find something for the worms & flea’s thank you
I just started my 4 year old Soft coated wheaten terrier on Trifexis 6 months ago and he started having these nervous ticks as described above. Immediately after I gave him his last 6 month pill, he started vomiting all over the house. Then for no apparent reason, the nervous ticks started. He was running all over the house like a mad dog. He would jump up from a deep sleep three feet in the air and take off running. I called the Elanco Company to report it and told them I had a vet appointment the same day. Elanco called my Vet three times to get a report. If their products are so safe, why should they be at all concerned? Why do the Vets protect them and do not inform the customer about these serious drug interactions?
In 2009 I adopted a 7 year old, heart worm positive boxer with a broken hip from my local SPCA after seeing him on the euthanasia list for the day. At the time I worked at a speciality veterinary hospital and King was referred to radiology for radiographs, an echo, and then to internal medicine for complete labs and a fecal for his reported diarrhea (the SPCA’s listed cause for his euthanasia). Aside from being about 35# underweight, slight changes in his heart secondary to heart worm infection and his shattered hip, everything was normal. The internal medicine specialist had me give him heartgard for 2 months, he was checked for microfilaria, and when negative, started on Trifexis and doxycycline as treatment. Within 3 months he would have episodes of vomiting (bile and undigested food), and intermittent diarrhea despite a grain free hypoallergenic diet his acupuncturist designed. Lab work at 6 months and repeat echo showed King had elevated ALT levels (twice normal), was only a light heartworm positive, and had a drastically decreased worm burden. At 9 months he had protein in his urine, ALP was elevated, and he was heartworm negative. At a year, the vomiting was so frequent, and a repeat echo revealed no heartworms, while an abdominal ultrasound showed a slightly enlarged liver, so the Trifexis was stopped and he was started back on heartgard. He had regular lab work every 6 months, and volunteered to teach several local vets how to perform ultrasounds, and after 3 months off Trifexis his ALP was normal and ALT was decreased. His vomiting drastically decreased. At 6 months, all of his lab values were normal and his liver size returned to pre-Trifexis size. Up until his passing at 14 from a mediastinal mass and hypercalcemia, his liver values never tested abnormally again and he never had Trifexis again. My other boxer was tried on Trifexis and had sever hypersensitivity. Sentinel caused hives, facial and limb swelling, and now after she developed cancer, even ivermectin causes neurological issues (high stepping, bumping into things, saw horse stance). I’ve seen countless patients in the clinic on Trifexis with elevated liver values, and you have to wonder how toxic this medication is that it insults the liver and damages it enough to raise the values? And even more reports of vomiting come in. When clients ask me how I feel about a medication causing vomiting, I can’t help but tell them it sounds like it’s time to find something safer for their pet that doesn’t cause negative symptoms. I’m curious and worried to see how all the new flea products like Bravecto and Activyl are going to affect animals. I’m too scared to give something like Bravecto or Proheart that stay in the system for months. Kudos to all the pet parents brave enough to speak up and tell their vets that they won’t be giving medications with damaging side effects to their fur babies.
RVT, thanks so much for this insider look at the damage that was done by this drug. Amazing the follow up you did and the conclusions you’ve fairly drawn. The liver, as you intimate, can take a lot of abuse before the enzyme levels start to elevate or the organ itself starts to swell. This is a great story of intoxication at the hands of a drug purportedly marketed to help prevent disease.
Our12 year old Westie had his second dose of Trifexis one week ago. The last five days he has been lethargic and sleeps a lot. Not at all like him. The vet discovered an irregular heart beat, something he did not have in March of this year. Had EKG and also blood work. Blood tests are all perfect.
Is there an antidote you would recommend for the Trifexis? I have read some things on the internet regarding liquid dandelion and milk thistle for a detox. Any thoughts?
Thank you in advance.
Hi Kay,
You’re asking a homeopath, so I like a common detox remedy called nux vomica 30C. You can buy that anywhere remedies are sold, and I’ll be putting up a protocol on my latest Apoquel post very soon, so check there on how to dose it.
The herbs are fine, don’t get me wrong. If someone has a protocol that’s got good legs (demonstrated effectiveness multiple times w/o harm), that’s a fine place to start.
Your 12 year old is talking to you. I hope you’ll not give another dose, learning what you’ve just learned.
I do not believe the post-approval adverse reactions for Trifexis cited on package inserts are credible based on the following: On the abbreviated Trifexis package inserts printed in the JAVMA magazine, Vol 244, No. 4, February 15, 2014, and in the Veterinary Medicine|dvm360.com magazine, May 2013, it states the following: “Post-Approval Experience (March 2012):”. (i.e. implying that the post-approval adverse reactions are based on data up to/including March 2012) The production date at the bottom of these same Trifexis package inserts is
“(V02-06-2012)”. According to numerous pre-press proofs from Matthews Brand Solutions, an art production studio that works for Eli Lilly/Elanco, “(V02-06-2012)” is their “Text Approval Code” for final artwork to be printed. This indicates the text on these Trifexis package inserts was written and approved by February 6, 2012, which is BEFORE March 2012. I wonder if this means the rest of the data cited on these package inserts could also be a work of fiction?
Hey Martha,
More significant to me is the length of time the drug has been getting used, and the growing body of side effects that real people with real dogs are reporting. Is that double blind studies? No.
But are deaths and serious sicknesses after a drug entered the bodies of many companion animals over several years real? I hold strongly that they are. The more who come forth with reports like these, the louder becomes the denial or, worse yet, the silence from Elanco
Here’s another interesting fact. On August 8, 2014, Eli Lilly registered the domain name “TRIFEXIS-DEATHS.COM”. One has to wonder why? The site is no longer up, but I wonder if it was used as a means to divert, capture and dispose of negative Trifexis comments during that peak death period. I agree with your long-term effects POV. My perfectly healthy dog took Trifexis for four consecutive months with no negative effects. He didn’t even vomit. Then he became acutely ill and almost died. He pulled through though and for six months appeared to have made a full recovery. Then one day the same effects came back and he suffered a horrific death.
OMG! You’re hired, detective Burrows! That’s pretty chilling, isn’t it?
As was your experience with the delayed effect that seems quite common with this drug. It seems as though the stronger dogs can withstand it for some time and then go down. Some for years, perhaps like my Mom who smoked all her adult life and finally died after the hospital techs tried to help her breath by suctioning out gobs of black tar.
My condolences for your loss. That’s got to be so hard to look back at, I can only imagine.
*Repost from March 22, since I didn’t get a reply to my original message*
I never realized Trifexis could be so dangerous, but now it makes more sense. We lost our Gunny, a beautiful Red Bone Coon Hound/Lab mix almost a year ago exactly. He was only four and a half. He began having seizures about a year or so before he died, not long after we started Trifexis. My concern now is for our Lily, Bowie, and Phoebe. Lily is almost two and has had at least a year’s worth of Trifexis. The other two are pups and have had only one dose. How do we know if Lily has been harmed by it. She and the pups (not her pups) do not show any adverse reactions. How can we tell if damage has been done? Please respond.
Hey Michael,
You’re asking a homeopathic vet, so I have an answer from my place on the practice path: you’d be seeing symptoms if illness was present. That links points out common chronic disease symptoms that most people aren’t aware of. We look deeper, and have a different definition of “normal” and “healthy.”
You could also run some blood work, a CBC and Chem Screen, and see if all is within normal limits. Your local vet can do this easily.
All the best and my condolences for your losing Gunny.
My dog was given trifexis as a puppy and was okay with it in the beginning. But when we increased dose, he would be so lethargic and drugged. Throwing up, diahrea. I took him to the vet everytime. And they said it couldn’t be the trifexis. I changed vet and they switched him to another brand, I forget the name now. And he hasn’t been sick anymore.
Well… I’ll jump in since I see your comments section is still actively flowing nearly 2 years after your post.
My family just brought home pup. We haven’t owned a dog before, so a lot of this is new for us. We selected a vet. Seems good enough. They do the normal exam, tell us we have a good dog, etc etc.. (he’s a thriving energetic puppy, of course he’s good…)
We are getting his boosters for parvo, just got his rabies vaccine. I’m okay with all this.
On the 2nd visit the doc offered a free Trifexis booster. Told us not to give it for a couple days because he just had his booster and it may make him sick if its too close together. 2 things, first, I’m lazy and forgot to give it to him, second, I believe in not giving my pets anything I wouldn’t take… and upon further inspection, wow, would I not take this.
So here I am about a month later, just had a follow up visit. The vet asks if I want to get my next month of Trifexis from them… (in my head I’m thinking, oops, do I tell them I forgot), then I ask, how much… $25. $25, wow! My follow up question, naturally, how often do I have to give this to my dog…. well, every month for the rest of his life sir. I laughed, then I got motivated to figure out what this was all about.
Naturally google searches led me here, and I’m glad it did. I just threw out the free sample I was given and I’ll be exploring more organic methods of raising a healthy dog.
Btw… the thought crosses my mind as I read all this. How did dogs survive without heartworm or flea medicines in the wild? (meant to be a sarcastic rhetorical question…)
If you couldn’t tell by now, this is just a thank you comment. To you and to all the folks who shared their stories. Nothing like first hand accounts to help sift through what the manufacturers wont share.
Thanks for stopping by. I’m glad you’ve found value in this to help you make sound decisions for your new bundle of energy.
All the best going forward. It’s a great time to set the stage for a healthy, long life!
Hello Doctor & Everyone!
What about not treating for heart worm or parasites and just paying for a comprehensive lab test every 6 months?
I am located in southern California, a relatively low-occurrence heart worm area.
Is it true by doing this we could not only avoid using drugs, but if heart worm is actually detected, within the six month time-frame the worms would be very small and easily treatable?
Interested in your thoughts as this might be a viable option for many owners.
Thanks from San Diego!
I never realized Trifexis could be so dangerous, but now it makes more sense. We lost our Gunny, a beautiful Red Bone Coon Hound/Lab mix almost a year ago exactly. He was only four and a half. He began having seizures about a year or so before he died, not long after we started Trifexis. My concern now is for our Lily, Bowie, and Phoebe. Lily is almost two and has had at least a year’s worth of Trifexis. The other two are pups and have had only one dose. How do we know if Lily has been harmed by it. She and the pups (not her pups) do not show any adverse reactions. How can we tell if damage has been done? Please respond.
you want to detect bs, start at the top of this article and dont stop until reach the bottom. I raise dogs, all my family have dogs, we started with comfortis and now use trifexis because it works wonders. No side effects, no fleas, no ticks, no worms. Are there certain dogs that will have a problem with it …yes…….JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER MEDICINE……10s of millions of doses and 700 documented deaths, thats safer than asperin. And thats just dogs, the active ingredient is used for many other animals. If your dog dont tolerate it well, dont give it to them……but dont denigrate a wonderful product because of your all natural prdjuduces……thanks for my chance to rant…….john
I have been giving this to my small mixed terrier for years with no I’ll effects. With everything I’m reading about it being poison, I wanted to switch her off of it to heart gard and some other flea med. I was giving comfortis for a long time but it seems it gets reviews just as bad as trifexis. I’m seeing mostly bad reviews and it was good to see someone who’s dogs do okay with it. Still confused what to do. I gave her the last dose in the box this morning with her breakfast and she has been running around and playing. She is 8 years old too!
Yes, my first assumption was the same. However, there are three factors that led me to think more optimistically. For one, if she were a diverter, it would be very easy to track her down through the lot #s etc.. Secondly, she appears to have been the lead vet tech at the Humane Society in Memphis and volunteered at free spay clinics. And thirdly, she appears to now be involved with a German Shepherd rescue initiative in another state. My mission is truth. I have no interest in profiting from my dog’s death.
I lost my beautiful Samoyed dog in June 2013 here in Canada after being prescribed Trifexis, and have been on a mission ever since.
I just found the following document from the Nashville, TN veterinary board dated December 2014. Here is the link:
Here is the relevant excerpt:
“Consent Order – Amy Keller, L.V.T.
Ms. Keller was not present and was not represented by counsel. Mr. Keith Hodges, Assistant General Counsel, presented the Consent Order to the Board for ratification. Ms. Keller stole Trifexis worth over fifteen thousand dollars ($15,000.00) from her employer. She pled guilty to Theft of Property worth between $10,000 and $60,000, a Class C felony, in Shelby County Criminal Court. Ms. Keller agreed to voluntarily surrender her license to practice as a veterinary technician and to pay costs of the proceedings. Dr. Galloway made a motion, seconded by Dr. Federico, to accept the Consent Order. The motion carried.”
One has to wonder why a vet tech would risk her career and a criminal record to steal $15,000.00 worth of Trifexis from her employer unless she was trying to make a point and save some dogs’ lives, perhaps based on what she saw on the job? Hopefully that is the case.
Also, Trifexis was launched in the U.S. two weeks after Assurity for cats in January 2011. (both Elanco products) Assurity contained spinetoram pesticide and was also blamed for cat injuries, illnesses and deaths. U.S. EPA labels for Assurity indicate that it (and now Cheristin for Cats) was/is commercially manufactured in Canada. I wonder is Trifexis is as well?
Hi Martha,
I’m gonna take a swing and guess this theft was motivated not to save lives in some way, but to profit from sales on the side.
An older professor in vet school once told us, “If you’re in No. America, and hear hoof beats behind you in the field, you’d better turn around expecting to see a horse, not a zebra.” In other words, the most obvious thing should be the first on your mind, not the rare and unusual.
I’m sorry you lost your Sammy after starting Trifexis. And I wish you all success in your mission, if it’s one intent on educating.
Thanks for stopping by.
Original article is completely one sided with no scientific basis or facts, just testimony and heresay, which is NOT scientific research. 700 dogs from 70 million doses = 0.00001%, which is probably about the percentage of dogs that have undiagnosed serious conditions, such as brain tumors or leukemia. Yes the flea treatment probably puts an initial strain on the dogs immune system which could cause these conditions to now become apparent. Because the timing coincides with the administration of the flea treatment, the conclusion is that the flea treatment is the cause, which may not necessarily be the case.
I agree…. I’ve posted several responses here pointing out the same thing. There are plenty of medications people take that can have rare but serious side effects. That doesn’t mean they are pulled from the market so we can suffer with the issue the medicine would have addressed.
We have a Shiba Inu that’s been on Trifexis for years. My dog is healthy and parasite free. We have friends with two Shiba Inu’s, both take Trifexis, both are healthy and parasite free.
The sad thing is no one ever posts when the drug is working great. They only post horror stories when something goes wrong. That’s human nature. Few people go online to share good reviews. Most only post a review when they have something bad to say. So all you see online are the 0.00001%.
I was willing to read but you lost me “vaccine-induced autism.”
Still waiting for the double blind studies, Lisa? Talk to some moms who had normal children until a certain MMR or DPT ruined their lives. No one in that situation needs to be told it wasn’t real until the studies come out.
Society would still be battling Polio, Hib disease, Whopping Cough, Measles, Tuberculosis, Smallpox, Tetanus and Rabies if it weren’t for vaccines. Some of those diseases have been outright destroyed completely by vaccines.
The people of today are spoiled. They didn’t have to witness people slowly dying in iron lungs.
Pure BS, Cody, and I’m sorry you’ve bought it. It’s quite easy to find the graphs of disease declines, 85% of the decline in incidence coming long before the vaccine ever hit the market.
It’s not that people are born “broken” in some way, and only a vaccine will make them whole. C’mon, in your heart you likely know this.
Dude, …the anti-vaxxer myth has been thoroughly debunked. Pesticides for sure might be bad, but there is no link to autism and vaccination.
Seriously, you drank that Kool Aid? I’d like you to stand tall and tell the mothers, one at a time, that their perfectly normal, well developing child whose world fell apart after a vaccination, that the vaccine had nothing what so ever to do with it. Report back when you’ve done that with ten moms, whose lives will now revolve around their broken child, who’ll be in diapers as a twenty-something dependent. We’ll wait for you.
Cody– as long as the USG and other nations continue modifying & ‘improving’ ALL the diseases you’ve cavalerly listed – there is no such thing as eradication of any percentage you may choose to cite.
They are routinely re-released on unsuspecting populations globally & you know this.
The more you nay-say Dr. Falconer’s reporting – the brighter his light shines on the reprehensible practices of the drug/pharma industries – and those who are paid to support it.
Vital Animals is not the only site with such
excellent, healthful information – we who know alternative modalities work best will always persist in application of them.
Whatever negative effect you’re attempting here – won’t gain traction.
Me too. Saying people coming here don’t agree is just ignorant. It’s the internet. People will obviously come across the page during a search. Obviously this guy just doesn’t like argument because he has no proof to back his claims up.